Installing SRI Gold kit today - little help?

Ok so lets play this a different way. Lets just suppose that all the science and so-called testing showed that gold on tin was the best possible combination and tin on tin was wrong. Now everyone that had the GCK installed gave testimonials that their cars ran horrible and the connections were all corroding. Would you believe the science or testimonials?

 

Yes that would be SAVIOR, not savor Tim and he lives in the West as was mentioned before, God's country remember. Geography it's a great thing. Ferrari knows all about this kit and what it can do to their bottom line ($$$). They have no interest at all of making our cars more reliable, none, zip, nada. Got it!

Tim you and the other FNA Kool Aid drinkers should just go along with their schedule of having majors done every 3 years (either though you only have 3000 miles on it), chase the ghosts that will have a temporary fix, a relace inferior pieces with new Ferrari inferior pieces for lots of $$$$. That is your God given right. But for the smart ones here who now know what a truly reliable Ferrari is we will be enjoying our cars on the open roads (not just in our garages) for many many miles and many many years for fewer and fewer service costs. My next "major" will be in 7 years, try that with your cars tf, didimao-, Johnk, et. al. and report back to me on how that works out for you. Oh wait I forgot you don't "really" drive your cars you just pretend. So scratch that.

No kool aid just pure Rocky Mountain Spring Water. Great stuff, too bad you have no access to it.

AND ONCE AGAIN I ASK A SIMPLE QUESTION ABOUT YOUR DEFINITION OF "A RELIABLE FERRARI" AND NO ONE, NOT YOU, NOT DAVE ROCKS, NOT JOHNK RESPONDS. ANYBODY READING THIS WITH NO DOG IN THE FIGHT THIS SHOULD TELL YOU ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A CLUE.

TO THE INTERESTED: THIS KIT WORKS FANTATASTIC AND TRANSFORMED MINE AND MANY OTHER'S CARS. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR EMPERICAL DATA AND YOU DON'T SEE IT THEN YOUR CHOSE IS EASY...DON'T BUY THE KIT.

 

As of today, I have a reliable Ferrari for it runs great and has no GCK.

And I'l ask you again - how do you know that if you replaced all the connectors with new tin pins the results would be any different than using gold?

Answer = you have no idea and no data.

 

The funny thing is neither do you!

 

You are partially correct - I've said that all along.

But, as posted here by many, data does exist that verifies gold/tin is not recommended but you fail to acknowledge that data.

 

Yes you may think that but you don't know until you drive one that is better. I thought mine was great too but now I know it wasn't. Lets face it Dave, most Ferrari owners are not the meticulous but I am. I like to extract the best from my car and right now the difference is night and day and the GCK was part of it.

 

But where is the data that shows any Ferrari with the GCK is not running properly? You fail to show any.

 

GerryD, this is my last reply to you since you just refuse to open your eyes.

1) No one is saying that the GCK has not solved problems.
2) What is being said is the root cause is likely poor connections, connections that could be resolved with new pins and no need for gold.
3) Data has been submitted to show that gold/tin electrical connections are not recommended by the electronics industry, an industry that has done many experiments to prove this fact.
4) Not a single person has any data to support the use of gold/tin and that gold pins have solved the problems.

 

You guys keep arguing back and forth but Ernie said it best: Let's get the DATA!!! We have the tools for it.

Get 2-3 owners of 355 cars, do all the necessary tests "before and after" and see if there is a difference.

Perhaps SRI (Dave) doesn't feel the need to have to prove himself and I understand that completely but if indeed there are only testimonials and no actual data, why not do this?

I am a believer in this kit based solely on the testimonials but could it be that there is somewhat of a "placebo" effect? After spending all that money and time getting a kit installed and getting behind the wheel, is it possible that one would want to believe so badly that their car runs better that they actually convince themselves subconsciously that it does?

I'm not trying to put fuel on the fire here but I want to figure this out....I am willing to put my car up as a one of the Test cars.

We can all meet in a major city (Chicago, for example), get the tests done at Euroquipe, convince Dave or any other GCK expert to come install them and then redo the tests. We get it all on video and do a testimonial from each owner as well. If everyone is willing to do their part at cost, it could be great....and hopefully we can put all the hostility aside, share a few beers and all become real life friends no matter how the results turn out.

what do you say guys? anyone?

 

And you cannot prove that they don't perform better than tin on tin. You and the other stooges cant even give a timeline on when the gold on tin will go bad. Like ive asked before, If all of this scientific testing was done, then why is there no timeline(s)?

Also please answer this > Lets just suppose that all the science and so-called testing showed that gold on tin was the best possible combination and tin on tin was wrong. Now everyone that had the GCK installed gave testimonials that their cars ran horrible and the connections were all corroding. Would you believe the science or testimonials?

 

GerryD, as I said, I'm done talking to you. Good Day.

 

Thank you. Good way to get out of answering the above ?s

 

Me personally, no matter what the debate, repeatable independent scientific tests published and performed by hundreds if not thousands of times by people that not only work in the field full time, but some who actually design, manufacture and test the product overrides any personal testimonials that offer no other proof than “it feels better, trust me”. No matter what the case maybe, I would not resort to calling people who disagree with me derogatory names nor would I ignore any evidence they may present to support their viewpoint.

 

....and, unfortunately, that is the issue we are having. The debate is getting heated, people are losing their cool, and insults are being handed out like a hot potatoe.....sad indeed

 

Good grief - isn't it bad enough with the all the attacks and insults that we now have to turn this in to a spelling class?

Well, if that's the case, then people with glass houses shouldn't throw stones:

 

So you would buy something that dispite every single person that bought the same item telling you it was crap? Good one. As for the people that work full time in this business and supposedly did all this testing....why no timeline? Even my childhood school testing showed how many days it took for a nail to rust out in a dish of coca cola.
And speaking of people who manufacture and test "supposedly" test, why is Ferrari still putting out headers that crack and installing sticky interiors(amongst other items) in their newest cars? Could it be that even Ferrari does not test for time related deficiencies?

 

Great idea.

 

Actually, if my car was running perfectly fine which it is, I wouldn't buy anything for it.

See my cancer analogy. If you cannot understand that, then look at the diagram I posted a few pages back. Contact resistance between gold + tin and tin + tin remains close for about 100 cycles. Beyond that, you can see the resistance level in gold + tin increase faster than tin + tin. At contact resistance level 1, you can see that tin+tin last roughly 10 times more cycles than gold + tin. This is one single test so I would not place much weight on it without further correlating tests.

Excellent, you should show the results of this test to amp, te, dod, etc; those guys clearly have no idea what they’re doing.

True. Ferrari headers are an embarrassment and there should be a class action against their nasty sticky interior. Not sure what this had to do with electrical connections but I’m 100 percent with you on this!!!

 

LOOL. I mean LOL

 

GerryD....he is just following your lead....you have not answered a single question I have asked you.

The only thing worse than a stooge is a hypocrite.

 

Exactly. Back in the 90s multiple manufacturers used this soft touch paint. It was an unproven product at the time. Now look at what we know 20 years later. But, at the time I'm sure you would see people saying " this is great feeling paint....my car doesn't,t have a problem and I have no sticky parts!" Only time will tell.

In general automotive business cars are only meant to have a short life cycle. They use a disposable mentality. The problem w Ferraris is that people hang on to them a long time, and with age comes a new sense of problems....like the sticky paint and electrical connections.

I'm sure the Amp connectors are no different. They have a certain time limit and probably were not designed to be disconnected with the frequency that Ferraris do. When is the last time you saw a 15k mile BMW or Mercedes have the engine taken out 4 times? Think about that. I assure you theses other cars use the exact same connectors. These are not Ferrari only parts.

 

You see, I don't think anyone with the GCK has to give any answers. We bought the product and it works. Its you guys that say its bad bad bad. Im happy and so are all the other GCK customers. You can point out all the links you want....None absolutely non of our cars is running worse from the GCK installation and most if not all say they run much better. Its you that has to prove otherwise. The only reason you stooges keep on about this is because you have an agenda. Why else would someone keep insisting that we made a bad move. I would without a doubt do the same thing over and over. If you wouldn't then good for you and I can appreciate that but please stop telling us over and over that Daves idea is a bad one because his knowledge, years of experience and the testing he does simply makes your knowledge the equivalent of a 5 year old.

 

GerryD....will you please go to your garage, open you harness, and crimp on new gold connectors? Should take you an hour tops.

I have asked you a very specific question. Please answer yes or no.

 

If you are in a hurry to prove us wrong, put up your own cash and do your own testing. Please try not to be so cheap. I will do my harness in my own good time.
BTW I gave you an answer. Please try keeping up son.

 

I thought you bought the kit? You should have a pile of 55 28 cent connectors that you can easily install. Your kit came with all the tools, right?

GerryD, you have little to no credibility at this point.

If you believe it will make your car so good, then why aren't your ECU connections already done? Did you actually learn something from the stooges? Scared it might be a bad choice for you?

I believe most people reading this will see that you are the one with some strange agenda....I'm just not sure what yours is. We already have 5 stooges here....we are a close knit group....why are you trying to alienate yourself?