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New 458 Scuderia is coming

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Savageulm, Mar 13, 2013.

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  1. isot

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    #626 isot, Aug 20, 2013
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    It's very rare that the renderings reflect the reality...
    To do this they doubled the pylon central and added the front bumper of the LaFerrari...How sad...
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  6. Flo400

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    It's funny that their 2-door hatch back F12 is still faster around Fiorano.
     
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    Love it! Something I've been waiting all year for, interesting to see how the front numberplate gets mounted though, guess the front Horsey has to go?
     
  9. cesman

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    This is really ugly! They've taken one of their most beautiful cars in recent years - the 458 - which successfully got away with minimal vents & visible aero, and completely bastardised it!

    I had a Scud, which IMHO was better looking that the 430 - but this is way worse, whatever the performance. I hope this isn't an indication of Ferrari's future design direction.

    Whatever the stats - this is simply a way to wring out the last year's revenue before the 458 is replaced. I'm definitely not a buyer of this one. wOULD RATHER GO AND FIND A 360CS which design has truly stood the test of time.
     
  10. mhh

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    I'm not yet sure about it but I agree with you that the 430 Scuderia was instantly regarded as better looking than the F430 but I don't yet feel the same way about this.
     
  11. tekaefixe

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    Could anyone put together pictures is the 458 Italia and 458 speciale so we can compare more accurately?!

    Thanks in advance

    Oh Boy for me it's ugly... I'm really disappointed, specs aren't everything.....
     
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    #637 RC33, Aug 20, 2013
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    Extreme technology for an uncompromising new V8

    Maranello, 20th August 2013 – The 458 Speciale is the latest product of Ferrari’s core philosophy of extreme technological innovation and research which, in this instance, has yielded powertrain, aerodynamics and vehicle dynamics advances that transform the already exceptional 458 Italia into a car genuinely worthy of the “Speciale” moniker. The result is a completely new, uncompromising, streamlined sports car concept.

    Many of the sophisticated solutions being applied for the very first time to an in-range car in the 458 Speciale, including its advanced active aerodynamics, will become a standard feature of all new Ferraris in the future.

    Flanked in the Maranello marque’s range by the multi-award-winning 458 Italia and 458 Spider, the new mid-rear-engined V8 berlinetta was designed to boost both performance and driving emotion to unprecedented levels, yet simultaneously guarantee smooth, effortless control in all kinds of situations.

    Having lavished meticulous attention on the power unit that was named “Best Performance Engine” at the International Engine of the Year Awards for two consecutive years, Ferrari has now built its most powerful naturally aspirated V8 ever (605 cv) with an extraordinary specific power output of 135 cv/l , the highest ever achieved by a road-going naturally aspirated engine.

    Thanks to an equally exceptional weight/power ratio of just 2.13 kg/cv, the 458 Speciale can sprint from 0 to 100 km/h in a mere 3.0” (0-200 km/h in 9.1”) and also clocked a lap time of just 1’23”5 at the Fiorano Circuit.

    Aerodynamic requirements guided the work of the Ferrari Styling Centre, which led the project in cooperation with Pininfarina, to sculpt the car’s forms to ensure they were more performance-oriented than ever. The most notable features in this sense are the front and rear movable aerodynamics which balance downforce and cut drag, thus helping make the 458 Speciale the most aerodynamically efficient range production car in Ferrari history (E Index of 1.5)

    The technology used in the vehicle dynamics subsystems which gives the driver instant confidence and control at high speeds, natural power oversteer management and precise response to commands are further advances in an area in which Ferrari is already a well-established leader.

    One of the most innovative content of the 458 Speciale is the Side Slip angle Control system (SSC) which makes it easier to achieve car control on the limit, thereby greatly improving driving emotions. Thanks to the development of an accurate new algorithm SSC performs instant-to-instant analysis of the car’s side slip, comparing it with the target value and then optimising both torque management (via integration with F1-Trac traction control) and torque distribution between the two wheels (via integration with the E-Diff electronic differential).

    Part and parcel of the car’s development included Michelin Pilot Sport Cup2 tyres which were specifically honed for it in an intensive collaboration programme involving, amongst other factors, numerous track test and simulator sessions. Conceived for the 458 Speciale, they boost performance over a single lap in the dry as well as improving performance consistency in subsequent laps. They also allow the car to avail of maximum available grip in the wet.

    The abovementioned technical content has improved the 458 Speciale’s single lap time and also delivers repeatability of that performance on subsequent laps that is absolutely unprecedented for a car not designed exclusively for track use. The result is that the 458 Speciale has the fastest response time (0.060 s) and highest lateral acceleration (1.33 g) ever achieved by a car in the Prancing Horse range.

    The 458 Speciale will receive its public world debut at the Frankfurt International Motor Show in September.

    TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION SUMMARY
    Engine
    Type V8 – 90°
    Total displacement 4495 cm3
    Max. power output 605 cv at 9000 rpm
    Max. torque 540 Nm at 6000 rpm
    Weight
    Dry weight 1290 kg
    Weight/power ratio 2.13 kg/cv
    Performance
    0-100 km/h 3.0”
    0 – 200 km/h 9.1”
    Fiorano lap time 1’23”5
    Emissions (ECE + EUDC combined cycle)
    CO2 emissions** 275 gr/km

    **With HELE System
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  13. Bas

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    I like the interior and the rear bumper (although pipes need to be in black).

    The rest is hideous.
     
  14. isot

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    458Speciale

    Horrible name ... as usual at this time

    Exaggerated, bad very bad



    To appreciate the real beauty of the new creature of maranello expect to see real and not these nasty 3D reconstructions ....
     
  15. of2worlds

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    The nose looks very awkward with that kick up in the middle and the chrome horse mounted underneath. Which is right where some markets will require a front lic plate to be mounted. Likewise the rear with the kick up in the middle of the bumper with another chrome horse stuck on there. Then the rear chopped off vertically in a very flat manner looks strange.
    The new wheels look nice....
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  16. Camelot

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    +1...the stripe is too wide also, wonder if can take the stripe out
     
  17. BlackRivazza

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    To say the most awkward point of criticism: it looks a bit (too much) Lamborghini-ish...

    Speciale... well, it's "special" without any doubt.

    Anyway, I will see her in the flesh Frankfurt next month, maybe the new design will grow on me then. But I will always prefer the already iconic & elegant look of the "real" 458
     
  18. PSk

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    Rear does not look any wider than the standard 458 to me.

    The 360CS is still the best looking track focused road car. The standard 458 is beautiful ...
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  20. Garretto

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    The rear is a bit disappointing (waiting for a lower, better view). The front is a bit overdone, they should have gone for a single, full-width rectangular intake. The sill wing will require explanation, heh. The interior looks good but clearly the best of all is the name: "Speciale". So glad they didn't go creative as in LaFerrari. The other day I was dreaming about Ferrari calling a car something like "I love you", d'oh! I think I rcall it was going to be the substitute of the California :D
     
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    Oh, and some bespoke mirrors would have been great :(
     
  22. maximilien

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    Always like that, everybody hates and everyone will buy it lol
    It is important to remember that this is a 3D picture!
     
  23. Savageulm

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    yes I confirm...pls wait to see her "live". I promised some pics time ago, and I will post them in few minutes. I hope they will help you to understand how it looks different "the real car".
    BTW apart the stripes and the name (even in my Italian language I don't like it too much) I love her.
     
  24. of2worlds

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    The problem for the designer was that 458 Italia already looked perfectly fine before they started to make changes with that Speciale version. Looking forward to your 'real' 458 S pictures. Better than the artwork!
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  25. Savageulm

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    #650 Savageulm, Aug 20, 2013
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    Here the pics. I never posted them as promised. Many of you appreciated:)
    Now pls tell me, doesn't seem much better looking at the pics? Many of you are expert. Doesn't the rear seem slightly larger ?
    I repeat, the car is gorgeous seen by person and sure has lost some elegance..But I love her and I would like to see one in a dark colour too and without stripes...
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