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365 GTC4

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by alaind, Aug 20, 2013.

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  1. alaind

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    Hello, where to buy one please ?
    Thank you
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  2. miurasv

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    Are you looking to buy a car in your homeland or possibly in a different country? Where are you based?
     
  3. alaind

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    I m in France but will buy everywhere
     
  4. miurasv

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    Shall we assume that it must be LHD?
     
  5. 300GW/RO

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    to enter the "enzo-era" below 500k; witness last weekend..... These too shall move as their attributes become more widely appreciated. Anyone care to discuss the "how-comes" and "why-fors" the c/4, until perhaps now, remains "below-market"? Can't be all because of that fugly round black front bumber, can it?!


    Jack
     
  6. mkeith

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    Pure speculation on my part, but I believe it is because of the C/4's close association with the Daytona in terms of value. I often see C/4 values stated as a percentage of whatever the going rate is for a Daytona. As Daytonas have been rather stagnant relative to other Enzo era cars (at least up until this past weekend) in recent years, so to have C/4's.

    I think the reason that there are so few C/4's on the market is because owners see their cars as undervalued in the current market. Their cars won't bring enough money to allow them to step up into something else for a reasonable difference in price. The next step up the food chain has become a giant leap. Therefore, I don't think anyone is selling unless they have to.

    Once again, pure speculation on my part. Feel free to tell me how wrong I am.
     
  7. afwrench

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    As an owner I can tell you that one of the reasons that not many are for sale is that owners love their cars. Great usable driving/touring machines. Mike
     
  8. sam231

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    I'll second that! afwrench appreciates that I just completed a 2,981 mile trip in mine with no issues other than a couple of gauges that would occasionally wink out only to come on again later. We do think they are underappreciated, but we bought them because they are truly comfortable grand touring cars and very usable even around town....and their sound beats a Daytona any day in my book. They have a distinctive look to them, and many owners including myself have cars where the bumpers were painted to match the body color, as we believe Ferrari was going to do if production had gone on longer than 2 years. Also, the price may be rising because they are relatively rare - only 505 were originally made and perhaps 350 remain. I can attest that they are very popular now as I turned down three offers to buy my car in the last 3 weeks alone.

    If you want to see what is available worldwide check out 18428 premium cars for sale: Anamera
     
  9. bighitter2

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  10. VIZSLA

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    As someone said elsewhere curves sell, angles not so much.
     
  11. Zanny1

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    Incorrect IMHO....drive a C/4 and you'll see why the folks that have them keep them. In the 12 years I have owned mine, there's been numerous articles about them being 'undervalued' and 'the next Enzo era car to jump in price'. It just hasn't happened, and I would be surprised if it ever does.
    My car is no garage queen.... 25 year old paint job, but all new mechanicals. I drive it all the time....that's what is was designed for. And if the value did ever take off, I am not sure I'd sell it anyway. They are such unique cars in terms of character, performance, and sound.
     
  12. Hoodude

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    The blue one at stableltd.com looks nice...ex-harrah car they say. I have no connection to this firm. But the car clicks good boxes...it's not quite the right time for me,darn it...good luck.
    Cheers,
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  13. shross

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    #13 shross, Aug 21, 2013
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    It is a core part of my collection for all of the reasons stated here. As for the front bumper:

    1. It's part of the appeal;
    2. You can't see the outside from the inside

    Visit 365GTC4.com

    PS. I'll sell you my '83 512BBI for the same money.
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  14. Herky

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    I realize the C/4 bumper is more pronouced but I've never heard anyone complain about the black front bumper on the Miura.

    Regardless, I feel the C/4 exterior has aged well. When I started following Ferrari's, while I was immediately wowed with the Daytona styling, the two have evened out for me.
     
  15. EdwardLovett

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    you have mail
     
  16. greg246

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    I quite like the bumper and would not paint it, looks awkward painted IMO. I have added 9"wheels to the rear which improves the stance

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  18. loflyer47

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    in 1975 I decided I was going to buy my first Ferrari...did some research and chose to buy either a 365GTC/4 or '58 TDF... In 1976, I bought my very first Ferrari... a 1972 365GTC/4...which I still own to this day...and still love it dearly...Great car then...and still is in my opinion... (A side note here...I bought the '58 TDF in 1978..and still own that one also)....
    My choice of a C/4 was simple... I LOVED THE STYLING....plain and simple..the nose, the lines...everything about it...
    Now...some food for thought.....
    although I thought the 1957 Chevy was a great looking car in it's day (and still is today)...I was more in love with the 1958 Impala (which everyone scoffed at)..I bought one then and again in 1980 bought another..to this day I still own the '58 Impala Conv't. I bought in 1980...
    Interestingly, how the tides have turned on the 58 Chevy and now is the better car to own today...(over the 1957).... just some food for thought... Just go out and enjoy your cars.......that's the bottom line....and buy what you like.....
     
  19. mkeith

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    I agree that they're great cars. I got to drive a client's car a good bit before we tore it down for restoration. My comments were geared more toward the possible reasons why their values have lagged & why there are so few currently for sale. If I owned one, I wouldn't sell at current market values unless I absolutely had to.

    BTW, that arancio looks fantastic. I've never seen it in that color, & I would have never believed that it would work so well on a C/4.
     
  20. greg246

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  22. simon klein

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    Greg,Have you got a pic of Bill's showing the FBB and Borrani's?
    The other unfortunate "fed" thing,are the side indicators,IMO.
     
  23. greg246

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    Here are three different bumpers. Fibreglass, painted (fibreglass I think) and original rubber far right
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  24. shashi27

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    I like the GTC. To be honest I never really noticed the front bumper on the Miura until you pointed it out. I think that speaks a lot to it's design.
     

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