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    Looking good Taffy!

    The exhaust works IMO, you're not adding "bling" to the truck, which I find great personally it would ruin it IMO :)

    The rear lower bumper sides look like they are bent or drooping? or is that just the camera angle?
     
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    Thank You JeremyJon,

    I think it is just the angle.
    We have not re-adjust anything in the bodywork though, later on after the electrical and mechanicals are done.
     
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    Total bill is sing $100 which is about US$80 :)
     
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    Finally, slow progress ... after one mechanic went AWOL :p and the other was sick for almost one week plus national holiday for almost 10 days down here
     
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    Total weight :
    12 Cyl headers all the way to the tip of the exhaust is 40kg !
    That is pretty lightweight for a 12 cylinder car complete exhaust sytem IMHO.
     
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    Are those copper brake lines?
     
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    Yes. Standard factory issue. We just re-route them in a more logical way.
     
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    I'm surprised that they used copper for the brake lines? they are prone to wear or injury more so than stainless tubing ...but then likely cheaper too
     
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    Do You have any suggestions to what material I should use ? We are in the stage of fit&finish at the moment. Changing the lines is easy. Thanks.

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    Oh, now I remember last month we tried SS but it is unbendable (it breaks right away), and we will have to use many joints on corners. Hence we will have to use too many connectors. So we opt to use the original copper lines.
    My aircraft mechanic said he prefer copper due to its better vibration damping properties.
    On Aircraft the SS high-pressure tube sometimes do crack, even though the wall is much thicker.

    On my M5 the germans use steel (mild steel I guess. It is soft, bendable and a bit yellowish).

    I am open to any suggestions.

    Thanks.
     
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    When I worked as a mechanic for GM (~15 years ago) we generically used copper tubing for replacement of rusty steel brake lines.
    In europe we just got them as 10M rolls of brake lines and cut them to lenght, made the double folded ends and be done with it.
    Much much easier to use as replacement and more durable than steel since it doesnt rust.
    Link to generic parts, copper tubing, fittings etc http://www.krogslund.dk/universaldele/bremseroeromloeber/c-24/c-373655/c-5

    Keep up the good work on the Lambo ��

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    true, stainless is not very easy to bend, and so corners and T's are needed for fitment, but it is stainless, more commonly used in high end hot rod builds, because it polishes up chrome-like, and is "best" quality material choice

    commonly we'll use aluminum line, it bends easier, like copper, and sprays easy with a clear protective coat, and then braided stainless lines for as much length is reasonable - and not getting pinched - at each wheel, and aluminum line we could get in a thicker wall choice, but i'm not sure if you can in copper maybe also?

    here the local hydraulic / hose supplier can make a braided stainless hose set to fit with the proper ends and custom length, so likely a place similar there can do also

    here for super stock or similar class racing, we use to split open rubber fuel line, and use that as a protective cover over the brake lines & hard fuel lines, from rocks/gravel and debris, zip ties used to secure (like roll bar padding), but you just have to be careful that no zip ties, or other hard objects, can rub directly against the hard lines
    this perhaps might be easiest to protect your existing lines, without changing them!?

    some cars, common through the '80s and '90s - I don't know if yours already has these - have thin stamped stainless protective plates which provide cover to those hard lines, in vulnerable spots, like entering or exiting the transmission tunnel, or near the exhaust
    it's not to difficult to make some up for yours, then self-taps to hold in place to the chassis

    hope that helps! :)
     
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    The engineer is using proper seamless nickel copper alloy brake lines for automotive use not normal near pure copper tube used for household or industrial applications

    Lines are similar spec to this

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    JEGS NiCopp Nickel Copper Brake Lines - JEGS

    JEGS NiCopp Nickel Copper Brake Lines

    Product images may differ from actual product appearance.

    JEGS NiCopp Brake Lines are a seamless copper nickel alloy tubing DOT approved for hydraulic brake systems. They are strong as steel, rust proof and easier to work with than any brake line on the market. This product has been used on several high end European vehicle brake systems since the 1970s including: Audi, Porsche, Aston Martin and Volvo. NiCopp brake line bends 58% easier than traditional steel tubing. Since it is flexible, this allows it to be easily snaked into positions that conventional brake lines cannot. A painstaking job just got easier and quicker! Available in 3/16" and 1/4" diameters and in various lengths. Durable black oxide coated steel tube nuts are available separately to complement the lines.

    90-10 Copper Nickel Seamless tubing
    DOT Approved
    Meets SAE J1047 and ISO 4038 specs.
    Use to replace steel lines in brake, fuel and transmission systems
    Does not rust or corrode
    Highly flexible, easy to bend, flare and seal
    "
     
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    Thanks for the explanation
     
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