EU Plans to Fit All Cars With Speed Limiters

Think is says all "new" cars.

EU plans to fit all cars with speed limiters - Telegraph

Implications for Ferrari, Porsche, Bugatti, BMW, Mercedes et al.

 

I spot a nice market of aftermarket ECU's that'll remove this doer of evil.

 

I really doubt this idea will ever get off the ground, especially in Germany.

 

Manufacturer horsepower limits have been a standard requirement for sportbikes for many years. It is generally a simple jumper switch in the ecu to allow full power. It get done at the dealer when they do to Pre purchase prep.

 

The end of the golden age of super cars.

 

Think this through... It cannot and will not happen.

 

One could say that you cannot enjoy modern 600+ hp supercars on the road in the fullest anyway...

 

So, because you can't "fully" enjoy them you should eliminate them?

That's kinda like saying if you can't eat all the food on your plate you shouldn't have been served any of it anyway.

I'm trying to figure the value of someone buying a $300k sports car when the brakes get applied at 70. Who would buy it?

 

I believe that's exactly the point

 

I'm not saying that... I'm saying if you have 300k+ $ to spend on a car, then you can also afford driving it on the track without any limits where you will not be a danger to other people on the street, just to yourself

A 600 hp supercar is a ridiculous preposition for the street anyway. You'll have more fun in something smaller, less powerful and lighter, while doing it within legal limits.

 

Even in the EU, there are places where speed much greater then 70 is perfectly legal--Nurburgring is just such a place. How do you turn these thing off when its legal to go faster?

 

it's about as ridiculous as your opinion above...especially, if you were not allowed to offer it...
it's about the ability to make personal choices, and not be stifled by someone who thinks they have a need to make them for us...

 

I'm not arguing for the EU imposed speed limit.

I'm arguing that as such it would have little impact on today's 300k $ supercars because you can't use them on the road in full capacity anyway. Or better said, you shouldn't.

 

Do you drive?

 

In the end it's a silly idea thought up by some idiot and it gets published as if it'll happen tomorrow.

Many will be against it, many jobs will be lost etc. It won't happen for a long, long time just yet.

The argument was that it'll save 30000 lives in a year; which we all know is bull**** because official figures saying that the cause of death was excessive speed is very low.

 

Yep!

 

Well yes indeed.

What will happen to German car makers? Porsche, BMW, Audi, Mercedes et al?

What will happen to Italian car makers? Ferrari, Alpha, Maseratti, Lambo et al?



What will happen to those good jobs? will production be moved to Asia? US? Canada? Australia? Japan? Doesn't Europe have chronic high unemployment anyway? Won't this make it worse?

How are you going to pass someone going 65 in a 70? Need lots of space with no oncoming traffic to do it safely. Could in fact be dangerous.

BTW I was born in 1945. I have never driven a car that the maximum possible speed was only 70 mph.

 

it's obvious that you don't have a supercar, haven't driven high performance cars , much less are qualified to drive...

I would argue that most super cars are driven to their fullest by those who have them... that does not mean that they need be driven from launch control starts to continuous wide open throttle until shutdown with total disregard for traffic and regulations...

I would also argue that drivers of econo boxes receive more citations issued for violations, are involved in more collisions of all kinds and pose a greater risk to society than the errant offender driving a super car...

 

Complete and utter hogwash!

 

What's ridiculous is how comfortable Westerners are getting with imposing their values on those who disagree with them -- that's separate from the barbarity inherent in majority rule.

 

GT-R's in Japan use their navigation system's GPS to lift the speed limiter when you're using a track. It gets reactivated the moment you leave the track.

 

The Germans randomly inspect cars on their highways for compliance. My guess is that the limiter would be the first thing they'd check. And it can happen here . . . (ever claim there's no objective truth in a given context? Here's some of the payoff for thinking reality is optional . . .)

 

From Metcalfe's column in #186:

 

Won't be very hard to swap ECU settings by the simple press of a well hidden button .

When the GTR just came out, Nissan said the ECU was unhackable so modification would be impossible. IIRC within days of the car going on sale, several tuners (for instance Mine's) already remapped the ECU.

This **** is like the internet....you can't stop it. Where there's a will (and there's plenty of it), there's a way. With profit.

In any case, they can't very well force this system upon every single car driving in Europe. The expense will be so great it'll bankrupt EU even more, and there will be no change whatsoever in the deaths on road. People die on roads all the time and it's always more or less the same figure.

The mouth breathers in Brussels are stupid enough to risk it though. But it's a non story. It won't happen.

 

Yep.