Pump will not start when open the driver door, car will not start

I am an owner of a 360 F1 spider, nearest Ferrari workshop 450 miles away in Norway.

For approx 1,5 week ago there was extreme rain and my garage was flooded and I got water ingress to the car , I was abroad and could not do any thing to get it it out, a friend of me have dried out the car shorthly after and I arrive back home yesterday. The car wouldn't start, totally dead, at that time the alarm led was dark and nothing working.

I have managed to get the immobilizer and central back working after searching in this forum. Display showing all OK but this dosen`t help since the pump does not start, car is in 1st gear and it is not possible to put it into neutral.

I am not even sure what pump which shall start when open the driver door (Fuel or F1 pump?)

I have replaced the old battery with a new Odessy battery, but that does not help either!

Have checked all the fuses behind the passenger seat, they looks OK.

Any advice what to check ?

It would be very much appreciated to get some feedback !!!, if it is not resolved it will be a major issue to do it, most likely I have to fly in a Ferrari mechanic from Oslo (Capital) and I have no idea how to get it out from the garage since it is in first gear.

Best Regards from Jostein from Norway

 

Thanks for all replays so far, very much appreciated.

It was rain water (fresh water-rain water) however likely to be a bit contaminated since the parking place is not perfectly clean, which mean that

I havent remove the cover behind the driver seat yet, but will do, behind passenger seat is removed and checked, I have also bought a spray can with electo cleaner, maybe that will it help or at least not get it worse.

It was approx 10 inch with water in the garage, to bottom of the door it is approx 8,5 inch
Removed approx 15 litre of water the day after, approx 4,5 gallon if I remember the correlation factor correctly. Most likely the lowest relee or fuses was somewhat submerged or submerged

I have called the Ferrari workshop in Norway (only one in Norway), they will revert with some info but so far nothing, Gear in 1st is a challenge, if not solvable then it will be very complicated to get it out from the garage and to a transport truck...

But will check everything I can find on the F1 pump first, again thanks for all the advices!

Best regards from Jostein

 

Result so fare:

1.Removed F1 systen pump fuse, fuse was blown, replaced with a new from the toolkit but blown again immediately before pump start.

2. Checked FI relay, open it and one of the wiring inside was loose (loose brown cord).

3. In process of checking if it is possible to buy a new fuse and relay in the neighbor hood, anyway feel that I am a little bit closer to the issue, main thing is to get the system working to enable the car to get in neutral to allow transportation for further check at the Ferrari work shop.

 

Car is insured and I report the damage the day after the extreme weather, I have also received an insurance number from the company. At that time the damage was unknown since I was not able to test the car because I was at work abroad, however "1st aid" was carried out to dry out the car by all available means. One neighbor also take a couple of photos the actual evening.

I have done some trouble shooting today, especially to try to get it into neutral which would ease the way to get it out and on to a transport car without success, however I believe that I am closer to the cause of failure due to advice from this forum and help from an local electrician.

1. 30A Fuse F1 system pump blown (behind driver seat), retried with new blown again immediately.
2. Inspected F1 System Pump relay, looks damaged.
3. Removed Relay, install a new 30A fuse and put power on, fuse OK, according to him then the problem should most likely not be inside the car and he check the connection to the relay and find one red cable with black line to have a short circuit continues negative signal when he measured it, this go through the inside wall from the bottom of the floor and to the F1 pump. (Not sure how to get access to the F1 pump?)
4. Conclusion so fare: Most likely a damaged F1 pump or connection to it, need to talk to the Ferrari work shop tomorrow when they open.

Thanks for all the advices, very much appreciated !

Best regards from Jostein

 

Thanks for your advice and also how to get access to the pump, look at it tomorrow if I get some assistance from an electrican as today (its close to midnight in Norway now).

As mentioned in other thread, it would be significantly easier if I manage to get the car in neutral for the transport and to get it out of the garage.

By looking at the location of the F1 relay it could well be that it was submerged in the water for a while since it was located close to the floor, the relay was also checked by an outside workshop (not ferrari) and they conclude it was damaged (overheated).

 

I will try that tomorrow when I get access to the pump, that was also our conclusion after discussion ,but we didn't know where to get the access to the pump before your advice and then the other have left the "building" due to the time difference between US-Norway, late here.

I have mainly doing troubleshooting, since the pump not started I know that the car will not start. Battery switch is off in the luggage compartment.

I have read about this special tool in this forum for quite some time ago, however the Ferrari dealer in Norway was not aware of this and informed me that they have to remove the actuator to get it into neutral

Thanks for your great advices ! Very helpful

 

F1 relay was changed in 2012 (info only)

 

Thanks!

 

Latest Update:

1. Remove cover and cable (one in the connection was the red with black stripe) connected to the pump. Measured cable and no short circuit observed.
2. Reconnect cable to pump and measured short circuit again.
3. Measured contact points to the pump and short circuit.
4. No short circuit observed on the cable from the relay.
Conclusion: Pump is toast.

Order new from Ferrari Norway (2000$) and a new F1 relay, will try to replace the pump by an local mechanic and then if the plan succeed, bring it to the dealer for further check. All in agreement with the insurance company.

Thanks to everybody which have contributed, very much appreciated and helpful and a lot of extra good advices to avoid doing any mistake which could make it worse.

Best Regards from Jostein

 

It was a low reading, 0,05, it was an electrican which did all the measurement, hopefully it is the pump and nothing else, because then I would have a major problem to find the cause.

- When we disconnect the F1 relay and put power on the 30A fuse was OK.
- By connecting the F1 relay it blown immidiatly when power was switch on.
- When we measured direct on the pins to the cable connector which was disconnected to the pump, it was no reading.
- When we measured direct on the pins to the motor on F1 pump it show 0,05.

Plan is to measured the new pump(motor) when it arrives.
If we install it and the fuse blown again, then something else is the cause.
Everything else in the car seems OK, I don't think it could be the car brain since everything checked OK.

 

Thanks for feedback !

Engine is not running, I am not able to start the car since the pump not start when opening the door, I guess this is one of the prerequisite to start the car in the first place, so currently the car is stuck in first gear and nothing happen when I try to turn the ignition key, but hope it is solvable !