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Discussion in 'Other Racing' started by Doug3, Aug 18, 2013.

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  1. Doug3

    Doug3 Karting

    Dec 20, 2012
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    If this was a boxing match, the ref would stop the fight.
     
  2. Simon^2

    Simon^2 F1 World Champ

    Oct 17, 2005
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    Yup. US got smoked in both races today.

    USA -1 / NZL 6. (USA needs 10 wins to claim cup... NZL only 3)

    That aside... I'm annoyed that the "USA" yacht has a whopping 1 American on board.
     
  3. wax

    wax Five Time F1 World Champ
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    7th wasn't even a race. If NZ can dial it in over the next few years on the downwind legs, they'll be even more merciless on their home turf.
     
  4. xs10shl

    xs10shl Formula 3

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    #29 xs10shl, Sep 13, 2013
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  5. Simon^2

    Simon^2 F1 World Champ

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    I suspect we wont see this class of boat again (72' foiling cats). Too expensive. Only 4 teams showed up (3 challengers + team USA). Perhaps that can be explained by the state of the US / European / Australlian economies in 2010/2011 when funds needed to be committed. But I think there is little doubt that the turnout is disappointing.
     
  6. wax

    wax Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Hopefully the Kiwis can pick a setting which would destroy an AC-Class ;)
     
  7. I16

    I16 Formula 3

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    Kiwis starting to get more confident!
    Saw this today on an NZ site.

    Q. What does ORACLE stand for?

    A. Overly Rich American Called Larry Ellison
     
  8. xs10shl

    xs10shl Formula 3

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    I have to say with respect to the 72s, IMHO it was a good attempt to pull sailing out of the 19th century. Agree that it priced a few teams out of the market, but the way these boats moved across the water is like something I've never seen before. I have to admit, watching the races live, and having the boats move so incredibly fast, has piqued my interest in sailing.
     
  9. rob lay

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  10. wax

    wax Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Google: Hobie Trifoiler


    via rubber ducky
     
  11. Simon^2

    Simon^2 F1 World Champ

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    Saturday:

    1st race: USA keeping it really close. NZL nearly capsize giving USA the lead / win.
    Race 2for the day. NZL ahead on leg 3 when race called off for wind above the limit.

    As it stands:

    USA 0 : NZL 6.

    (USA has 2 wins,... but 0 points due to 2 point penalty)
     
  12. wax

    wax Five Time F1 World Champ
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    That was fun to watch. Too bad about Mother Nature though.
     
  13. ScuderiaWithStickPlease

    ScuderiaWithStickPlease F1 World Champ

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    As far as I know, these are the only cruising cats that are lightning fast:

    Gunboat 90

    Made by the same family that runs J Boats.
     
  14. wax

    wax Five Time F1 World Champ
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    1 small mistake . . .
     
  15. xs10shl

    xs10shl Formula 3

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    Wow, race 10- now that was some real racing.
     
  16. Simon^2

    Simon^2 F1 World Champ

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    Fantastic race. Best race of the regatta.

    USA finally on the board with 1 point. NZL 7.

    Would be exciting if it weren't for the 2 point penalty.
     
  17. pma1010

    pma1010 F1 Rookie

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    Very cool technology. I read an article (NYT, I think) that described the NZ boat's advantage as the ability to sail into the wind faster than the Oracle boat.

    Thanks for posting the links to the videos.
    Philip
     
  18. macca

    macca Formula Junior

    Dec 3, 2003
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    The AC boats are 72 feet, go 40 knots, and cost many hundreds (?) of millions.

    They got the technology from here, just scaled up:
    Foilborne: The Wing

    which are 11 feet long, go 30 knots and cost about $25,000............

    When you're going at 40 knots, a gap of a few seconds looks a lot.......with the old 12-metre 'leadmines' of the 1980s a gap that looked small was quite long.

    Have the AC organisers/owners got the right balance? I don't think so.


    Paul M
     
  19. Doug3

    Doug3 Karting

    Dec 20, 2012
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    Excellent documentary portraying the Australia II's successful 1983 AC challenge:

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-L3L_3dyOE]America's Cup 1983 - Full Story on Australian Story - YouTube[/ame]
     
  20. 360 Kiwi

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    Another win to New Zealand just one more needed.
     
  21. Simon^2

    Simon^2 F1 World Champ

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    Great race.

    NZL looking strong today. 20 minutes to the start ...
     
  22. Simon^2

    Simon^2 F1 World Champ

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    Holy crap... wind limit postponement called as the boats cross the start line! NZL was ahead,... but perhaps with a foul... (judges ruled no foul).
     
  23. wax

    wax Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah-Yeah-Yeah! NO!

    That start wasn't pretty by any stretch, was it? Oooh - replay . . .

    Pretty
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43S-gNRw1Ag[/ame]
     
  24. Simon^2

    Simon^2 F1 World Champ

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    Looks like it's over for the day. Too windy...

    Come back tomorrow race fans.
     
  25. Rosso

    Rosso Formula Junior

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    #50 Rosso, Sep 19, 2013
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    I was out there on Sunday and got to snap a few pictures. This whole cup may not have been the best, from a competition standpoint, but since Oracle's finally found some speed on the 3rd leg, it's been much more interesting. I do say that these boats are quite an engineering marvel to watch on the water! I probably won't ever get to see the AC in person again, so I'm glad I've gotten to see a few races in such an up close manner without actually being on a boat. If there's one thing I can thank Larry for, it'd probably be that.
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