.... I think he would have prefered to pay 25,000 $... BBC Sport - Mark Webber given 10-place penalty at Korea after Alonso lift Cheers, Frank
Actually, at least in France, it varies...depending on which part of the country you are in... In Paris and some big cities, as a customer you are expected to tip "somewhat", but there is no standard percentage...however, it should not be so low as to appear ridiculous, that would be offensive, or could be done on purpose to signify a very bad service. In most other parts of the country, middle to small towns, etc...a tip is usally taken as a nice surprise, as it is not always expected. Use your judgement... Rgds
I rarely tip..it´s not a custom here, I´ve heard many people complain about houw rudely they are treated in the states when they don't tip!! It's stupid, if it´s mandatory then simply add it to the price but don't call it a tip!!! a Tip it´s something you give freely if you think someone did something extra and deserve to be compensated for that. Here nobody expects to be tipped. Yo simply pay the price and that´s it, if you think the people who served you deserve something else, it´s your decision, it´s not mandatory. But as always, every country as diferent habits, and people should realise that when they are dealing with foreigners.
Entirelly my view. I don't accept that tips are part of a wage structure at all; and if they are, the system needs reform! Everybody should know how much he is going to pay for a service, or get paid for his work. Beside, I am against gratuities in principles, because employers use them to keep wages down, and they are not declared for taxes. Could you imagine that practise being widespread? Like in hospitals, garages, etc... I have seem shop assistants asking me for a tip in the States, and waiters making a scandal: with me, they get no chance!
Let´s suppose that Ferrari has a budget of around 200M for this season. They do around 150 laps per weekend, 19 race weekends per season... that´s around 70K per lap. Actually not a bad deal for Webber.
I will never agree with a system where a boss doesn't not have to give a decent wage to his employees, but instead license them to beg at tables.
Yep. And they had darn well better declare said tip income on their tax return too. The tax man can, & often does, look at the bar/restaurant's tax return to get an idea of turnover and audits (or at least "looks at") not just the business itself, but all the servers & bartenders. Same in the UK. There's some places (gnerally the ones heavily frequented by Americans!) that have "tip jars" etc, but it's not the norm by any means. In fact, a decent bartender in a "regular" pub will call after you and remind you that you left your change on the bar.... Having dated a few servers over the years, I've very much become a Yank on this topic. In CA, doubling the tax on the bill gets you pretty close to the "expected & accepted" 15%. Most folks tip closer to 20% if they're happy, sometimes even more if they've had a great time etc. As someone noted above, the Brits in particular have a terrible reputation out here - Particularly at "resorts". I've become good friends with the bar tenders at one of the bars at Heavenly ski resort. They're not allowed to say anything, but I sure as hell can! Typical conversation after the cheap ass has bought a huge round of fancy ass mixed drinks; "Err, excuse me sir, I assume this is your first time buying drinks here in the States?" "No." "Well, I'm sure you're familiar with the fact that these folk don't make a living wage up here and are taxed on a percentage of the bars takings? That the drinks are expensive is not his doing." This will generally shame them into leaving something.... What really pisses me off is a $25:65 round, they pick up the $4 and leave the 35c! Good luck trying to buy a second round..... Gonna have a *long* wait and get under-poured next time. This "well I'm not going to see him again" attitude is the worst though; Gives all Brits a bad reputation. Come on guys! - As the Viz noted, "when in Rome". Karma will get back at you if you don't leave reasonable tips. OTOH, tip jars at the checkout of self-serve cafe's and the like is over the top IMO. My 02c. Cheers, Ian
Good point - although as they are running two cars for this number of laps it is actually $35 000 per lap. Fernando still gave him a nice discount though ...
Tipping if I'am happy with the service yes of course, if not no, and I don't go back there it's simple.
More like 18%..... That said, I overtip with good service and undertip for losers. I only know of one instance where "stiffing the server" was warranted. One of my employees, Mike, went to lunch at a local chain. The waitress dropped of the check, and then returned to pick it up with the credit card. There is a blank space on the receipt to write in the tip. So, Mike had added in a certain amount on the tip line and handed it back to her. The waitress then handed it BACK to Mike, scolding "You forgot to total it up". Mike looked at her, flabbergasted, and then crossed out the tip, brought the total down as is, and then handed it back to her with no tip. I wish I could have been there.
Did you look at Napolis' post #1? That, & the follow ups saying "the tip is too much/too little" is the reason for this going *way* off topic...... Cheers, Ian
You'd be surprised to know that waiters in th UK are pretaxed on a certain amount of tips they are supposedly likely to earn. That is what is completely wrong, they actually need the tips to pay their taxes.
Cars take evasive action as Mark Webber hitches lift with Fernando Alonso during Singapore GP ? watch the hair-raising video | Metro News ...to be fair, it wasn't a full lap though...
What seems to have been missed in all of this is: Ferrari is billing Mark Webber $27K for a taxi ride.
