The (one and only) '0846' Debate Thread

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You gonna put that on ebay?

Looks like you found the holy grail

 

Made by Piper?

 

Nope. Factory original with S.p.A. tags.

 

Dang, I can't find some car pictures that I took 30 years ago that I know are in a 1200 square foot building and you find the impossible when it could be any where on the face of the earth ... You must have a better system.

While your resting, come find these dam* pictures!

Congrats on your find and pictures when it is restored please!

Best wishes

 

Who is going to rebuild that g'box? From which car? Or spare?

 

We'll build it up and put it in 0846. 0846's gearbox is now it's original 593 P3 box which was replaced with a P4 (603) box in Dec. 66 when 0846 was converted from a P3 to a P3/4. I beleive 0846's original 603 box and block were destroyed in the Le Mans fire of 67. (Piper claims they wound up in 0900)

 

Jim

Not wanting to go off topic but, just got hold of this months Octane, Is that your duesenberg, looks fantastic if it is, very very nice spread (take it you can get octane in the US?)

Regards

 

Looks like parts from Pappalardo's old collection of P3/4 parts?

 

Hi
Someone said there was a photo of it but I have to check it out.
Best

 

Elsewhere. Someone who wishes to remain anon. Last I heard Paul's spares were with LS.

 

7 Pages!!

 

Issue? I did see a pic of Meg and I (from the back me in white hat) in Octane
illustrating an article on Euro Concours' taken at Villa d'Est.
Best

 

Issue 27 september 2005 Pages 104 to 110, your described as a "private american collector"

Regards

 

Thanks for the alert. It's not yet out here but will keep an eye out. If it a Franay bodied J dual cowl convertible Phaeton with a Lalique Lady it's mine.
Best

 

Nice find!!!

Congrats again, Jim. Always nice to see you figuratively digging around in old parts bins.

I have trouble finding Neiman blank keys, you turn up a more or less one of a kind gearbox.

Go figure.

Dave M

 

Hmmmm........part of me says in period 0846 was a spyder with a 603 box, and 0854 was built as a berlinetta with a ZF and then later a 603 box, so Jim's future work will put them back to how they were in period...............and part of me says 0846 is currently unique as a P4 berlinetta, as well as having a unique gearbox.

0846 will be just like 0856 and 0860, and 0854 will be like 0844, 0850 and 0848...........which is a pity in some ways.

And there are no original-spec P3s any more............if 0844 has a modern facsimile body, maybe it could be fitted with a P3 facsimile body, P3 wheels and Jim's 593 gearbox.

;-)

Paul M

 

Paul My Friend

As you know there's something lost and something gained by living every day.

My P4 coupe tail and roof section will remain intact as will of course 0846's 593 gearbox. Who knows what my great grand children may deceide to do?

Best

 

"My P4 coupe tail and roof section will remain intact as will of course 0846's 593 gearbox. Who knows what my great grand children may deceide to do?"


They might decide to sell it off and buy vintage 350z's from japan.


That is truely amazing where do you find something like that at?


You own a dusenberg also, I must be in the wrong business.

 

It may just be my computer monitor, but what metal is the gearbox cast of...it looks like a silvery-light olive green!!??

 

magnesium......

 

That's a protective coating Ferrari put on finished/machined castings.

Best

 

I kind of miss having Paul S. around to tell us that all of these parts are fake.

Jim,

Congratulations, great find!

Regards,

Art S.

 

Paul is still "around" and he makes sure that the truth on various items reaches anybody who is interested in the overall facts concerning such matters.

 

As Macca said there are some people who wouldn't know the truth if it fell on their heads from a great height. Replica Paul for example, as he showed by his continual refusal to acknowledge that Macca was right about the gearbox that was in my car (P3) and his inability to realize that David's auction catalogue description: "the frame's P4-style semi-monocoque center section" didn't prove anything except that David clearly had no idea exactly what the chassis he sold me in fact was.

The thing that's sadder than the above IMHO, is that Paul S. didn't have the balls to post under his real identity but felt in necessary to adapt multiple identities/personalities in a pathetic attempt to bolster his fallacious arguments.

As the 0846 Papers, including recently added information, are about to become public record perhaps the time has come to post the link:

http://www.glickenhaus.com/jim/project.pdf