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Stumbled across this 250GTO restoration

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Darren C, Nov 2, 2013.

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  1. Vincent Vangool

    Vincent Vangool Formula 3

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    The question is valid. It comes down to which one would you rather have. The one done right or the one done their way. This doesn't apply to just 250 GTO's. It apply's to any repair on a car. Example: Would you rather have the 250 GTE turn signal that was fixed correctly and therefore the results are the same as when it left the factory or would you rather have the turn signal that was fixed their way and therefore the turn signal is not as it left the factory?

    So which turn signal do you want to have?
     
  2. Enigma Racing

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  3. ginge82

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    Its a very simple and valid question except to those looking to avoid answering it.

    If they were being honest their opinions most likely wouldn't match up with what they have previously posted about english wheels.
     
  4. PAUL500

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    Stalking, I am flattered :)

    Big difference is the way its been made is also replication of a technique on a replica, I thought such things were also slated on here.



     
  5. Telaio

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    Hi, please excuse my ignorance but who is Mr G, cheers Rosso Kev.
     
  6. tongascrew

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    Look for posts in vintage tongascrew F Chat by "Napolis". tongascrew
     
  7. Telaio

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    So sorry Tongascrew but as a Ludite that's Double Dutch to me ( hope that's not racist ) can you please be more specific ? cheers Rosso Kev.
     
  8. ginge82

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  9. ROSSO190/20

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    Looks like Jim has 29,818 posts .......... life's too short, give me a clue ?? cheers Rosso Kev.
     
  10. PSk

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    #85 PSk, Nov 16, 2013
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    Jim owns #002, #0846 and #0854 and all been properly (period correct) and accurately restored under his supervision.

    Links:
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/vintage-thru-365-gtc4-sponsored-redline-restorations/261017-002-back-78-a.html
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/vintage-thru-365-gtc4-sponsored-redline-restorations/423520-one-only-0846-debate-thread.html
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/vintage-thru-365-gtc4-sponsored-redline-restorations/111267-0854-back-original-coupe.html

    If I was filthy rich and a serious old car collector I would pay Jim to supervise (advise on) my restorations, if of course he was interested.
    Pete
     
  11. Telaio

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    OK understood, serious Dude with impeccable taste, cheers Kev.
     
  12. Vincent Vangool

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    ?I'm at a loss with your ultimate response?

    I'm at a loss again? This must be what they call English Humor?

    The big difference is it's being made the right way to the best of their ability versus the wrong way because the builder just doesn't care about the quality of their recreation.

    If close enough is good enough for you on an eight figure car, well then.... there it is.
     
  13. Enigma Racing

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    Which GTO ?

    The ultimate answer to the ultimate question according to Douglas Adams. Forty Two
     
  14. Enigma Racing

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    As the artisan of this GTO restoration. Do you have a view on the use of the English Wheel ?
     
  15. Vincent Vangool

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    O.K. I get it. Thanks.


    Wasn't aware of the 42 phenomenom/joke till now. Thanks for the lesson.
     
  16. PSk

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    Read original restoration thread (I posted the link to earlier here) as discussed/debated in great depth.
    Pete
     
  17. Telaio

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    #92 Telaio, Nov 20, 2013
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    Hi Kim, please be advised that the Artisan formerly known as Kevin now wishes to be known as Rosso Kev; Thanks Paul, love it ;~}

    Many thanks Kim for your invitation, yes I have a view ............ I guess it's approx. 7 1/2 years ago that we carried out this 250 Gto resto, at the time it came to my attention that sadly a minority of Fchatters seemed to be pursuing their own agendas for reasons unknown and were misinterpreting what we were doing and criticising from afar our efforts and working methods.
    Indeed, in order to avoid this situation we carried out all our work in public and with openness and we had visitors from all over the world come and visit our shop to check our progress; we received only positive feedback from all who made the effort, and yet here we are again in the same situation ........ a small minority of negative people rushing to post either their vituperative, and, or ill informed views ( it's a totally different situation with the LM F40 we are currently restoring with really lovely and positive postings' please see F40 LM Restoration at 288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari ............ maybe it's a generation thing ??

    Due to the far ranging issues raised, to keep things simple I will go back to the beginning of this thread working my way through, I'll be happy to explain the rational behind our actions .......... cheers one and all, Rosso Kev.

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  18. PAUL BABER

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    #93 PAUL BABER, Nov 20, 2013
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  19. PAUL BABER

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    it's a totally different situation with the LM F40 we are currently restoring with really lovely and positive postings' please see F40 LM Restoration at 288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari ............ maybe it's a generation thing ??

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    Or maybe your expertise is more suited to the modern Ferrari......Just a thought...
     
  20. PSk

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    Kevin, no it's because everything you are doing (fantastically I have to say) is correct, period correct for a F40. Right tools used, etc. Even the modern dash works because it's right for that sort of car.

    Pete
     
  21. kare

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    I think this is rather because in car circles very few people have the back ground to really understand the choises you need to make when you are restoring something which will live forever and this results in people following their gut feeling from the perspective they have through their own experience.

    A carpenter taking care of royal furniture in Sweden (in many cases the absolute creme de la creme in existence!) once said that his job is not to make these pieces perfect, but to ensure that his followers in the coming centuries have as much to work on as possible. Decising what can be preserved and what absolutely must be repaired to stop further damage can be really hard and there will always be those who think you are not doing it right. Therefore I think that restoraing such a remarkable car with open doors shows both courage and determination.

    Based on what I have seen I would say that this GTO received a very wisely planned restoration which will preserve many aspects that might have been destroyed if a different path was chosen. Very well done!
     
  22. Telaio

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    Sanity prevails at last ............ wise words which are much appreciated, cheers Rosso Kev.
     
  23. Enigma Racing

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    Dear Rosso Kev

    I believe I have met the artisan formally known as Kevin. Please pass on my regards.

    I have entered the FChat world relatively late in life and apologise for not starting at the beginning of the thread

    Kim
     
  24. jjeffries

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    Top marks to Mr. Baber for *****y axe-grinder of the month. This was an odd thread to start with, and PB seems to have an agenda he can't let go of. Shame to soil the forum thusly. John
     
  25. Hogatoshagooarnie

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    I agree, pretty petty Betty Baber ! It's just as easy to be nice . Keep the thread alive rosso.
     

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