Luca di M: Fernando is asked to stop twitting about Ferrari

Yes, I believe possibly to a great extent. Time will tell. If you look at some of my past posts you can figure it out.

 

Ferrari was loosing for almost two decades before Schumacher came and this did not destroy the myth of the marque.
I personally think that being not a fair sportsman harms in times of global media more than loosing and sometimes I have the impression that Ferrari and Ferrari-Fans in special are not good in loosing. Just look into this forum, Ferrari is still among the best teams with just one team driving in an other dimension because of the genius of one man and over here one could have the impression that this is the end of the world.
Look at another thread called "Ferrari can dominate again...", people do not just expect Ferrari building a car that could compete with the Red Bull, no it must "dominate" again, nothing less is accepted.

Again and again: no one doubted that the Red Bull was better than the Ferrari, the Red Bull was better than any car in the grid but it was not just Ferrari struggling to keep up with Newey but everyone else as well.
One one side it is always pointed out that Newey is a genius and better than any other designer (as soon as the thread is against Vettel) and as soon as it gets to Alonso it is Ferrari that is stupid to build a similar car, just like this would be the easiest thing in the world...

Alonso was certainly not the problem not becoming WDC or WCC in the previous years but if he keeps up like this he could become a problem for the future (and not because of his driving!).

 

Alonso is paid to drive.
Give him a capable car and he'll win.
Everyone will be happy and will say sweet things about one another.

 

Personally, i think Luca should have made this a private issue. He should not inform the whole world about this so called ban. It only brings negative publicity. People, the fans will question the focus of the chairman.

Anyhow, Luca isn't the first boss to endorse the twitter ban. Alex Ferguson too, made it clear to his Man Utd players to read a book rather than tweet nonsense. In the football world, tweeting led to lots of fines, and embarrassment, as there were plenty of cases where the players took to twitter to reveal their frustrations, etc.

On a personal level, i think twitter is just a joke. Why the hell would you tell the whole world what you had for lunch? And which shopping mall you heading to? It's just silly, and attention grabbing, IMO.

 

Spot on. Luca's knee jerk reaction speaks to his poor management.

 

We do not know that it was a knee-jerk reaction. For all we know Luca and co have been managing FA's typical team breaking nonsense for a while. I believe Ferrari interpreted FA's wishing for someone else's car for his B day was an open advertisement from FA letting other teams know he was ready to move on and took immediate action hiring Kimi. FA's comments where not ever going to go down well with Ferrari.

 

There are two issues here. Alonso's behavior and the team's future.
Apparently Alonso is not dealing well with the lousy situation at the Scuderia.
Does that make him a bit of a jerk? Perhaps,but he's hired primarily to drive at that he still excels.

That's not the team's biggest problem. The car is.
Give him a competitive car and he'll win and the personal issues will disappear.

 

I think he needs to stop bashing the car/team publicly and spend the energy helping them fix the problem(s). That is what a true team member would do. As a driver it's his job to relay the issues to the engineers and work with them to get it right. I'd love to see the Red Bull car pinned against the Ferrari after they fall into private hands years from know. Then we may know how much better it was...if any.

 

I'm bookmarking this thread to revisit at the end of next year...

If Alonso beats Raikkonen or Ferrari is successful, there will be so many people on here eating crow. Many on here seem to think its a sure thing there will be a blow up of epic proportions in the team next year. I can't recall any time FA bad mouthed the team on Twitter, if someone can find an example, please post it before you lambast the guy. Crazy how Alonso has driven his ass of in subpar machinery and done everything he could to lift Ferrari to WDC challenges, wins and boatloads of points yet so many "Ferrari enthusiasts" here show no gratitude and simply try to bring the guy down whenever they can. Crazy.

In my opinion, this is a non-issue but the F-chat anti Alonso spin doctors are doing what they do.

 

what did he say on twitter? general displeasure? or was he specific?

 

This. Sort of.

I see him giving the Scuderia next year as a trial run run with the new rules. Good car, he stays. Another **** car, he's off to McLaren.

 

Nothing. I think it's just a gag order after Alonso shot his mouth off a few times to everyone.

 

Now we are on the right track clown hack lawyer ldm is the only problem ferrari has . If ldm was not a clown with a big ego in 2009 ferrari would have got vettel or hulk to back up micheal for two or three years .now ferrari has a real problem only person they can get is Lewis and how that going to go

 

Doesn't anyone remember the drama last year?

Fernando Alonso rage after Ferrari chief suggests Spaniard was at fault in India | Mail Online

La Stampa - Il tweet di Alonso non parte: in Ferrari la notte più lunga

 

well stated

 

One of the problems with this thread is that it is only dealing with the effects that Alonso's various tweets and statements has on Ferrari.

What it is failing to take into consideration is the effect and morale ammunition that they give to Ferrari's rivals.

The last thing any F1 team wants during a season is any display of disharmony within their team because that simply buoys their rivals. They will jump at the opportunity to exploit this weakness, to create uncertainty and sow seeds of doubt within other teams.

Take this season for example, no sooner were there hints of Alonso not being 100% happy at Ferrari than Christian Horner started spreading rumours that Alonso was in talks to join Red Bull, even though he knew it wasn't true!

Now why would he do that? What purpose would it serve? - It destabilises one of his main rivals and give his team an advantage, that's what! - It's called: "Divide and conquer!".

Next thing you know, Martin Whitmarsh makes an innocuous comment about the fact that McLaren would have no problem having Alonso back in their team and suddenly the press declare that Alonso's heading to Woking!

Suddenly, Ferrari are having to deal with two stories that have no truth to them whatsoever, and even fans of the team are believing that Alonso's on his way for 2014! (and some still do!).

All LDM is trying to do is stop this situation from occurring again in the future. He wants a unified team that doesn't publicise any internal issues publicly, to prevent other teams taking advantage of the situation.


As for talk of Alonso not being an employee of Ferrari:

1) His job is driving F1 cars.
2) He signed a contract with Ferrari to drive their F1 car.
3) He is not free to drive any other teams F1 car due to his Ferrari contract.

That to Me says that he is an employee of Ferrari, regardless of who actually pays his salary!

 

Sorry but I don't see any of RB's competitive advantage coming from such ephemerals.
They build a faster car and run a more efficient operation. That's their edge.

I suspect that Alonso has seen what working behind scenes at Ferrari has gotten him. More of the same. A second rate car. Either by design or through frustration he's gone public. I don't blame him and who knows? It might shake things up enough at Ferrari to effect some meaningful changes. At this point what is there to lose?

 

I totally agree, however, creating disharmony and disruption for you rivals is also part of the F1 game.

As I previously posted:

Why did Christian Horner continually spread untrue rumours of talks with Alonso about joining Red Bull? - Even after it was stated by Alonso himself that there had been no such talks?

What other purpose did it serve if not to cause a disruption/disharmony to Ferrari and Alonso? (Red Bull/Vettel's main rivals at the time!)

 

If(!) Horner's comments had any effect it would only because the Scuderia was suffering from internal dissent already. The team members know what and who the problem is and it isn't Alonso.

 

As I see it, if the internal issues are not made public, then Horner (and other team principals), cannot make use of it to further destabilise the team, and that's what LDM is thinking too.

All of the F1 teams are forever looking for ways to gain any advantage they can over their rivals. If they get a whiff of the slightest problem within a rival team, then they will take full advantage of it. What better way is there to destabilise a team than to help increase uncertainty and disharmony between a driver and his team?

This is the very reason why Horner has always tried to make out that Red Bull is one big, happy family and play down the issues that existed between Vettel and Webber, because he knows his rivals would take any negative information about his drivers and try to build up the friction within his team.

They don't call it "The Piranha Club" for nothing!

 

Denial is not a wining strategy. Admitting to a problem is the first step in fixing the problem. Apparently they are unable to address their issues, instead they've adopted a bunker mentality.
The team's been a rut for a while. It needs shaking up.

 

When have Ferrari dealt with issues any other way in F1? - They are the Pharaohs of F1: The masters of De-Nile! BA-BOOM - TSSSSHH!



(And yes, I am quite ashamed of that quip but I couldn't resist it! )

 

It's OK, you're among friends.

Adapt or die.
Ferrari has been subsidized so long by the FIA they don't have the same incentive to win that the other teams do. Stop the Parisian enablers!

 

Dude...he's no clown. He dragged Ferrari from what they were to what they are today.

Of course they have been bridesmaid the last few years, but it's still something.

 

It's not enough.