I am considering getting the 05/430, it has 17,000km on it, and it is equipped with ceramic brake. I would like to know the life of the pair of disc and brake pad respectively. Thank you very much for responding this.
From what I understand on this site the CCBs will last basically the lifetime of the car in normal driving conditions. Track conditions are a completely different story. Price to replace all four corners with rotors and pads plus labor equals approximately $25000 USD. I have them on my car.
Assuming no track time (even a little won't change the equation much) A car with 17k KMs or 10k miles should be as good as new under normal driving conditions, as stated by blackbolt.
Don't drive on unpaved roads. You don't want a stone/gravel to jam up in there and ruin a brake rotor. I just had to replace a set on a Porsche because of this exact issue. $$$$$. Customer is now selling the car, and replacing it with another Porsche without the fancy expensive brakes. Unless your running lemans on the weekends, you don't need them...at all.
The local McLaren dealer told me that the CCB are actually heavier than the steel brakes. I hadn't looked at the weight and was surprised by this.
Really? Could someone post side-by-side photos of the standard and carboceramic unobtanium brakes? Thanks
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I find this hard to believe. One of the main benefits of carbon-ceramic brakes is less rotational mass.
Maybe the calipers are heavier but no way are the rotors heavier. I have them on my car as well. Rotors are supposed to last the lifetime of the car but as stated, tracking the car changes that. Also no brake dust on your wheels!!!
The CCB pricing is truly obnoxious. If I have a car with CCB's on it and they crack or break or get trashed... I'm just going to replace the rotors with steel. One CCB rotor is 14,000 euros and 4 steel rotors are 1,200 euros. Even at 4 changes of rotors in the cars lifetime, one CCB rotor is still more expensive. I don't see the ROI quite frankly.. Yeah I know what I'd do...
I don't have pics. The ceramic rotors are noticeably bigger. Besides better braking, an additional advantage of the ceramics is that they don't generate brake dust thus making it easier to keep your wheels clean. I have them on my 05 430. I have also heard that the price of replacing the rotors is coming down a bit, still quite expensive. Sent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk
Change your supplier! This summer I replace the two CCB rear rotors for Euro 6'600.- (original Ferrari rotors for a Scuderia). Expensive but worth the money.
The Corvette ZR1 carbon rotor rings should be a direct replacement and the extremely small diameter difference should not effect anything. At somewhere around $2,000usd per rotor ring from your local GM dealer, its quite a bargain compared to the Ferrari part.
Just discovered Eurospares. Do they ship to the U.S.? Their prices are a lot less than Ricambi's. For example, a scud cooling fan is listed as $1580 on Ricambi's site, but only $655 on Eurospares' site.
When I went back to the site I realized that these are used parts they are selling. That explains the huge price differential. Good to know of another source for parts though.
I had no idea that they did not generate brake dust. I was wondering why my Scuderia's wheels were staying so clean. This is great news! I only got the car a month ago.
To all the Ferrari lovers who had responded. Thank you so much for your input. So if ceramic disc can stay for lifetime on normal use, do the brakes pads still have to change from time to time???
So which parts are different comparing standard brakes to carbon ceramic and in what way? Rotor is clearly different, made of a different material and with a different pattern of holes. This seems like the main difference. How about the caliper? Brake pads? If the brake pads are the same as standard brakes, then I don't understand why carbon ceramic brakes would not create brake dust since the dust is from the pad being eroded and that same process occurs on the CC brakes. Isn't the life of the brake pads similar between standard and CC? If so then the same amount of brake pad material is being eroded. Its the lack of rotor overheat, associated warpage, and therefore no need to machine them flat, that are the key differences for CC brakes. Anything with the brake control system, anti-lock system, computer controls of the brakes for stability assist, etc? If these items have any difference between standard and CC, then people better not swap them out without somehow making the other adjustments. Thanks for educating me.
depending on your braking style, a general statement makes no sense, but not more often than with a steel disc.
