250 LWB Cal Spyder

RM just listed a 250 LWB Cal Spyder Covered headlights for Arizona.
The estimate is $7-9m.

I think even though this is a RARE and desirable car-this estimate seems rather high.
I would have thought $5-7m more realistic with it selling closer to $6m at the most.
Lets see what 2014 brings!

Any other thoughts?

 

Race history? Alloy body?

"Ordinary" steel LWBs were under $1 MM five years ago!

 

Remember that 7m estimate all in is 6.36 at hammer . If seller pays full commission it is 5.724 net for him..so all depends where is really the reserve price..

 

In this market of no supply (i.e few sellers willing to part from their cars) I bet a high amount that the seller is paying zero fees (or very close to zero) in this particular case!
But yes your right it does depend on where the reserve is.

I know it silly to look backwards but in 2009 an exact same standard car-so no alloy, no prototype, no competition but simply with covered headlights fail to sell at $2.5m at Gooding
(I think the buyer secured the deal after auction with $2.6m).

How times have changed
Best Edmond

 

What is the serial number? I am still looking for 1641

 

I believe it is s/n 1077.

 

The RM car is listed as 1055 on their web site.

 

Sorry, you are correct. Need coffee.

 

That number, 1055, seems to be too low number to be a completion model like I USED to have. 1641 was the second to last made. Never forgot that V12 so I just bought a 550.

 

You don't even want to calculate how many 550s you could have now if you....(you can guess that rest)

 

I remember this car very well. Some years ago I had a drive with the then owner the late Holger Richter around the Chiemsee in Bavaria. What a blast we had. The engine just came back from the Piet Roloefs rebuilt and performed excellent. And the sound sent shivers up and down the spine. What I always liked was that with this taillight setup it looks like an open TdF. A beautiful car!

 

Although note that good 550's are hitting $3.5 million, porsche 550's that is

Merry christmas to you all

 

is it true that when Ferrari issued the california spyder, covered headlights were only for export as not allowed in Italy?

 

Covered headlights were not prohibited by Italian law until 1959 so not true.

 

thanks for having clarified this. I was wondering why some of the "suppose to be" covered headlight were issue with open headlight on the SWB version... Very clear now

 

What is confusing, to me anyway, is that some of the 1959 cars with covered headlights were sold in Italy????

 

Unfortunately I do not hold enough intel on 1959 cars to be able to answer your question. I'm in a middle of a transaction on a 1960 SWB (which was delivered in Italy) and the "headlights" were an issue... but it seems that it is resolved now thanks to you. Thank you again.

 

The first 8 250GT SWB California Spyders were completed in 1960.

#1883GT is said to have been delivered to Italy originally with open headlights and converted to closed. The same for #1915GT which was also originally said to have been delivered to Italy with open headlights but converted to closed.
#1951GT is said to have been delivered to Italy with closed headlamps but I notice that Tom Meade was a former owner so if I was interested in buying this car I would find out if he converted it from open to closed headlamps.

I would not count any of the above as being accurate. To get the best information on the car in question contact Marcel Massini.

 

thank you for this again, very helpful (it s one of those 3 cars we are talking about) - and sorry to have polluted this post with the covered headlights story

 

Sold in the high part of the bracket... US$ 8.8m

1958 Ferrari 250 GT LWB California Spider by Scaglietti | Arizona 2014 | RM AUCTIONS

What would be the premium for the SWB based on that price??

 

Its really hard to say. Some collectors actually prefer the LWB to the SWB today. My best guess it still around 20-30% at least. Any other opinions?

 

Now that most of these will become static objects due to insane price paid the better driveability of SWBs shouldnt matter a lot anymore and obviously the LWBs are much better looking, so.....

 

One is of famous American ..............other one is a famous Car manufacturer company Owner !

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