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issues with ceramic carbon brakes on f430?

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  1. Northwest 550

    Northwest 550 Karting

    May 20, 2009
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    In your case, OK, point taken.

    Admittedly, I am not tracking our car so for me, driving under normal conditions does not equate to the experience of brake dust - especially compared to steel rotors.

    Our 430 is a late model (2009) and now has 6000 miles. Since all of my 430 use is street, I don't think I will ever even change pads. What a bonus that is too.

    Also have CCB's in a late model 575M - so it is safe to assume I like them.
     
  2. redcaruser

    redcaruser Formula 3
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    Apr 8, 2012
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    One main point is: dust isn't dust.

    In contrary to the steel dust the carbon dust doesn't adhere well, does not burn into the rim and cannot corrode.

    Therefore it looks as if it has no dust with CCB's.
     
  3. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Daniel- Affirmative, you can blow off any ceramic dust and that does not work with the charged iron oxide from cast iron brake rotors.
     
  4. synchro

    synchro F1 Veteran

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    I'll bet you used street pads for a track event.

    Many folks use separate pads for track and the street, changing them out is not that bad and there are optional selections of the pad type for your application.
    Terry Taz should be able to help here, that guy is a wealth of knowledge
     
  5. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Scott- Not me on that one. There are several threads on what pads to use on the track and those owners are way more knowledgeable on track pads than I am.

    Using an optimized pad set for each type of driving makes sense if you track her frequently. Pads are easy to change, even for an amateur.
     
  6. Teachdocs

    Teachdocs Formula Junior

    Sep 3, 2012
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    There is dust from CCM pads and rotors from both street and track pad situations.
    Street pads might last two sessions at a track. Track pads might last you 8-10.

    Remember to never go beyond 50% of pad thickness as you will begin to damage CCM rotors. Waiting til the car tells you to service brakes is probably way too long.

    Lots of detail here:

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430/401739-pagid-rsc1-scuderia-ccm.html

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430/415422-diy-brake-pad-change-scuderia-spider-2.html

    Scuderia 16M Front Brake Pad Change on Vimeo
     
  7. HOBE456

    HOBE456 Karting

    Apr 27, 2012
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    Tom
    Are ceramic brakes really worth it on an F430 all things being equal?
     

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