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  1. cavallo95

    cavallo95 Formula Junior

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    I recently had a long thread bout lowering my 355, and with some help from you guys I finally did it and im happy with the results.
    The question I have now is..lowering the car obviously changed my camber in a negative way.. does anyone here know how to ad camber, meaning positive camber via shims (remove , add?) and explain process, thanks.
     
  2. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

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    The shims are on the bottom chassis attachment bolt. Remove a shim an the bottom of the wheel is closer to the centerline of the car. Add a shim and the bottom of the tire is farther from the centerline of the car. IIRC a 1mm shim is 0.5 degrees.

    At the rear the two sets of shims controls both camber and toe.
    At the front, you will have to set toe on the steering control arms and then diffle with shims.
     
  3. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Unless you have really good equipment for measuring camber, you are probably better off taking it to an alignment shop that does a bunch of Ferraris. Not only will they have the correct tools for measuring camber and toe, but they will also have a selection of shims to use in the process.

    Ferraris are very sensitive to alignment and misaligned front or rear suspension can wear out a good set of tires in as little as 1000 miles. I did that on mine when I first got her and the front tires melted away.
     
  4. Dave rocks

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    While Ican't disagree, when the time comes for me to have the car aligned, I'm somewhat screwed since this area does not have shops that work on Ferrari's.

    I'd also love to learn how to do an alignment myself. I think guys that race often do so.
     
  5. scrappin35

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    As far as I can tell he can do anything and since your going to be up there? if the timing was better I would be inviting myself up on that trip.

     
  6. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Dave- I think Ron at Delta Vee said he had some techniques for owner setting of alignment specs.

    Longacre Racing offers good camber gauges and I have been happy with their products, but you are probably better off getting a recommendation from Ron.

    Here are instructions from Longacre on how to use their digital camber/caster gauge. Probably about the same for most digital camber gauges.

    http://www.longacreracing.com/instructions/text/78295v4PI.pdf

    A good set-up might run $300, so would pay for itself on the second alignment.
     
  7. junglistluder

    junglistluder F1 Rookie
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    After I lowered my car I had it professionally aligned at a Ferrari race shop and they said they had to remove all the rear shims plus unbolt the A-arms and remove the washers to get the rear camber into spec. Before the alignment I had -3 degrees of rear camber and was destroying tires!
     
  8. SoCal1

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    Most important is do it on a level surface
    We set them close on the frame machine with a laser level and L bracket. Have one of those fastrax camber gauges to give us ballparks also.

    I only do this to get it close enough to get to the alignment shop so I can do a printout and have my baseline

    :)
     
  9. SoCal1

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    Yup same deal with me, had to pull the big fat washer also
     
  10. Dave rocks

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    Thank you Terry.
     
  11. bobzdar

    bobzdar F1 Veteran

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    You don't need a Ferrari specific shop, just a shop that knows what they're doing. As long as they get it measured and in-spec, it should be fine. They're really not complicated to align at all, I watched mine being done at a local shop that does some race car work. They aligned to factory specs using a Hunter machine.
     
  12. group77racing

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    Thats usually the senario. First, throw the factory specs out the window.
     
  13. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Yes it is painfully simple and costs nearly nothing in parts to align at home.
     
  14. ernie

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