Clearly I think both cars are wonderful. And the RS competed further up the Ferrari line so it's not a fair performance comparison. While the RS is a superb driving car , the Dino is the most beautiful sculpture - and since there are much better new cars for performance, the looks and feel matter. Frankly, it's hard to compare the two. I think they are both spectacular overall. And the Dino is one of the most beautiful designs ever penned. (And while a GTS owner I do say the GT is a more complete design, to me)
I was responding to the question on RS pricing above. I agree. The Dino is one of the most beautiful cars ever designed. Jon's are especially so. Stunning. And I strongly prefer driving it to a Daytona, for example. Even to a 275gtb So the RS vs Dino comparison isn't really one: the RS is one of the great legendary drivers and the Dino one of the most beautiful forms, and a wonderful driver - just not a legendary one.
The 911 market has moved VERY quickly this year (too quickly and too far IMO). At least four top quality '73 RS Touring have reportedly traded hands in the mid $700s. 73 RS Lightweights are somewhere beyond that. You can still buy #3 or #4 RS Touring with some questions in the mid to high $400s. Hagerty Price Guide: '73 RS Touring The Dino market has moved at a much healthier slow and steady pace for the last few years, as opposed to the skyrocketing Porsche market. IMO when the market correction comes I think the 911 market will take a more immediate and larger hit worse as a result Hagerty Price Guide: '73 Dino GTS Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
+1000 The RS is a phenomenal car and visceral to drive, but I really don't get the current RS market for exactly this reason. They built the RS in large quantities, and the other 911 models in an order of magnitude higher quantities over decades. It is easy to replicate the RS (or RSR, etc) look and driving experience...which is why it has been done so many times. Having driven both if I had to choose one I'd unquestionably prefer a Dino due to the added benefit of beautiful styling and the uniqueness factor.
Somehow this thread has morphed from being about Dino GT vs Dino GTS values into one about Porsche...
1973 246GT LHD $322k in Italy. Lovely, original looking car in Argento Auteil. http://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/ferrari/dino-246-gt/1973/202841
What are you talking about? Did you get the post numbers wrong? The "last pic on post 143" is the Gooding Carrera RS auction video. There is no way that a ducktail Porsche in bright orange with CARRERA scribbled on the side "screams out class." It screams out something, like "LOOK AT ME," but certainly nothing to do with "class."
Maybe the GT is starting to catch up? I just read this in the January 2014 issue of Sports Car Market magazine. On page 56 a 1972 Blue Dino 246GT sold for $378K, at Bonhams' auction Sept 14, 2013. And, it had a SORN (Statutory Off-Road Notificaiton) rating, used to cancel the registration of a vehicle(?) according to the article.
Fed "tapering" is winding down. Time to dump your 246s! +356. It's actually pretty satisfying to park a real Porsche next to a Speedster-shaped piece of plastic with a Subaru engine. The price difference seemed too large. With Daytonas, the spyders are RARE. With 246s, I suppose there's the usual increased desirability of an open car, but $200K??
When I bought my GT back in 1987 part of the price difference was supposedly a quality difference-- GTS cars supposedly were better maintained than GT. How that made any sense or was really true I don't know, but that was the thinking back then.
The Image of the roadster at MOMA is from their exhibition "50 years of the E-Type". However, they chose an E-Type coupe for their permanent collection (along with a 202 Cisitalia and, I believe 5 other cars). Keep in mind that Enzo Ferrari himself said that the E-Type Coupe was the Most beautiful car ever made (Maybe that was to lay the spurs upon Pininfarina but maybe he truly felt that way)
I sold my 246GT for USD360. Needed a new front clip and fuse boxes for classiche. Recent engine and gearbox re-build. Nick Cartwright restoration 2003 + 12,000 miles but loving cared for in between. So GTs may be catching up. I am missing it. R
Richard, It must have been an exceptional car! Yes you will miss it, as i do mine. BUT do what i did and go out and buy an early carb 308 and that will take the tears out of your eyes! I bought one within a week of selling the Dino for an eighth of what i sold it for, I absolutely love it and of course it is very closely related with the Dino in many ways but also in many ways more useable.........Hurry up though the prices are rising fast! P S Why did it need a new front clip for classiche? and where on earth would you find one??? Graham
The problem with a rising market, floating all boats, is that the car you want to buy has also gone up in price. Not good for us enthusiasts. Andres
I recall this exactly. To clarify, it is not a factory build quality issue but the owner's ability to cover maintenance costs as time progressed. In the '70's or '80's the 246 GT was nowhere near as revered as it is today and was usually the choice in a purchase because of the much lower price point than the GTS. 60's and 70's Maseratis lag far behind Ferrari prices for this same reason - used car buyers barely had the money to get into the car and maintenance was deferred as far forward as possible, rust abatement was unheard of, and the cheapest solutions were usually taken (think of the well known early cam shaft wear yielding expensive engine repairs) Because of this 246 GT attrition has been high and with people finally recognizing the GT as the gorgeous beauty it is that, then the hardtop version will sell at strong prices. Just look at the recent Chairs & Flairs 246 GT that sold for $473k after a costly restoration.
IMHO that gt was a steal. It should have gone for over 500. Look at the one coming up at Amelia. Buy that and add the same resto the one that sold for 473k car and you will easily be at around 500-600k.... just saying.
They are fun! [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Nc_0tUpNV8]Ferrari Dino 246 GTS - Exotic Car Drive - YouTube[/ame]
