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458 vs 458 GT3 Brake systems.

Discussion in 'Challenge/GT Cars/Track' started by VividRacing, Jan 24, 2014.

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  1. VividRacing

    VividRacing F1 Rookie

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    #1 VividRacing, Jan 24, 2014
    I tried to search and couldn't find anything first.

    Anyone know or have the specs on the gt3 system vs the standard 458 ceramics.

    Pagid has a new pads for the GT3:
    Front 8100 (available in RS19 or RS29)
    Rear 1674 (available in RS19 or RS29).

    Just wondering if they would cross over.
     
  2. EfiOz

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    #2 EfiOz, Jan 28, 2014
    I don't think so. The GT3 uses steel discs and different (brembo) calipers.
     
  3. VividRacing

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    #3 VividRacing, Jan 28, 2014
    Ok I appreciate the input I think you are correct.
     
  4. BoardwalkFerrari

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    #4 BoardwalkFerrari, Feb 22, 2014
    Also, keep in mind the GT3's do not use ABS, so if you are talking braking "system" versus just the rotors/calipers, etc... then it is a bit more comprehensive.

    The GT3 steel brakes are 6 piston front steel 380x35mm, rear are 4 piston 332 x 32 mm, which are the same size as the GT2's as well.

    The 458 Challenge Brakes use the factory ABS system, modified for track use of course, but are carbon ceramic and 398 x 38mm Front, 380 x 34mm rear.

    Hope this is what you were looking for.

    Boardwalk Ferrari
     
  5. Entropy

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    #5 Entropy, Feb 22, 2014
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    unless something changed, I thought...

    The GT3-spec 458 has ABS (Bosch racing) and traction control

    The Grand-Am/GTD spec, which is a GT3 derivative, has NO ABS or traction control

    The GTE/GTLM/GT2 car has neither as well
     
  6. EfiOz

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    #6 EfiOz, Feb 23, 2014
    Entropy is correct except I think the GTE/GT2 car does have TC and ABS, both motorsport units, not road car ones.
     
  7. BoardwalkFerrari

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    #7 BoardwalkFerrari, Feb 24, 2014
    Correct the GTLM/GT2/GTE do have TC and ABS.

    Also, Entropy was correct. I meant GTD, which uses neither TC or ABS...nor is it a proper GT3, but yes, began life that way. Thank you for the correction.
     
  8. Jeff Segal

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    #8 Jeff Segal, Feb 24, 2014
    Some good info here, some bad info here... Below is the actual, definitive specification of all of the 458 racing variants.

    458 GT (GTE / GTLM / GT2)
    -Adjustable TC (F1-derived)
    -NO ABS of any kind
    -Steel brakes

    458 GT3
    -Adjustable TC (F1-derived)
    -Adjustable ABS (Bosch)
    -Steel brakes

    458 GTD (Grand Am)
    -No TC of any kind
    -No ABS of any kind
    -Steel brakes

    458 "Super GT" (Nurburgring VLN, Special non-ACO rule set national series')
    -Adjustable TC (F1-derived)
    -Adjustable ABS (Bosch)
    -650hp, 1,150kg
    -Steel brakes

    458 Challenge
    -Semi-adjustable TC (Street-car derived)
    -Non-adjustable ABS (Street-car derived)
    -CCM brakes

    Hi, Al.
     
  9. redcar1

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    #9 redcar1, Feb 26, 2014
    Nice summary.

    Hi Jeff,

    Mark


     

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