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  1. ChicagoFerrari

    ChicagoFerrari Karting

    Dec 19, 2013
    125
    Chicago
    Full Name:
    Sean
    I am curious to know what other insurance companies are out there aside from Hagerty to specialize in classic/exotic cars. I just recently bought my first Ferrari, a 92 Mondial t and Hagerty actually declined me because my normal daily driver was not considered in the same class as the Ferrari and was over 5 years old. My daily driver is a 2005 Volvo XC90 which we are actually replacing when the new version comes out. It made no difference that this was a $35K Ferrari and not a new 458.... It wasn't just the age of my car, it was that it wasn't nice enough. I would have to have a car in the same category as Ferrari, like a Bentley or something along those lines.

    I'm just curious if anyone else has had this issue. I ended up just using State Farm which I use for my home and 4 other cars (classic BMW & Porsche included), and am only paying $200 more per year and it's under a normal policy that allows me to drive 7500 miles per year. (Vs Hagerty and their 2500 miles/year)
     
  2. southnc

    southnc Formula 3

    Dec 25, 2013
    1,765
    Charlotte, NC
    Full Name:
    Adam
    I got State Farm for my 07 Ferrari 612 (and Hyundai daily), with the car classified as occasional use and full coverage. The cost was 1/3 of Geico's, which I had been with for 30 years with a clean record.

    So, based on my experience so far, you should be in good hands (sorry, Allstate) with State Farm. So, why not insure your Ferrari with them and cut Hagerty out all together?
     
  3. dakharris

    dakharris Two Time F1 World Champ

    Jun 7, 2001
    29,441
    Sleepy Hollow
    Full Name:
    Cavaliere Senzatesta
    Sean, there are as many threads about insurance as there are on timing belt change intervals. There are as many opinions as well. You will do well to search this site for the hundreds of threads on insuring a Ferrari. You have already done something right. You shopped. You are probably fine with your State Farm policy because at least it is coordinated with the rest of your coverages. Many here are so worried about the physical loss exposure that they totally ignore their liability exposure. I don't know about you, but I often go on drives where there are easily more than $5 million worth of cars and even more than that in lost income among the drivers of those cars. Many of the specialty carriers do great on physical damage, but are weak on liability coverage.

    Your best bet is to enlist the services of a knowledgeable broker who can shop for you and ensure that you have all of the coverages you need for all of your vehicles and properties for the best price.

    There will likely be several well intentioned posts to follow from guys from Atlanta to Anchorage who buy their insurance from XYZ Company and they are great. They probably are fine companies. But unless the person giving you advice has exactly the same exposures as you (ZIP Code, driving records, types of cars, miles driven, type of house, number of kids and dogs), their advice is worthless to you. There are several hundred insurance companies in America because they all have different appetites. You want to find the one that wants you.
     
  4. ChicagoFerrari

    ChicagoFerrari Karting

    Dec 19, 2013
    125
    Chicago
    Full Name:
    Sean
    Thanks for the input dakharris & Southnc, I am just going to keep it with State Farm. I was originally shopping around because I thought it might be much cheaper but it wasn't. The policy I have is full coverage with occasional use (7500 miles/year) and only cost $200 more per year than Hagerty.

    I was just really surprised at their reason for not insuring me. I have great driving record, one ticket in 20 years so no issue there.
     
  5. dakharris

    dakharris Two Time F1 World Champ

    Jun 7, 2001
    29,441
    Sleepy Hollow
    Full Name:
    Cavaliere Senzatesta
    Like all insurers, Hagerty has a profile they are looking for. You fit it or you don't. That's why they can charge what they charge. Their model works, but only if they stay true to it. I changed insurers on my HO and auto simply because my daughter moved back home and drives a BMW. Those two factors completely blew me out of my prior carrier and had nothing to do with my Ferrari.
     
  6. Schatten

    Schatten F1 World Champ
    Owner

    Apr 3, 2001
    11,238
    Austin, TX
    Full Name:
    Randy
    Odd that you were declined. I guess I fit the profile? I had to fill out a "high performance driving resume" for a 20 year old 320hp Ferrari for their underwriters.
     
  7. FDT

    FDT Formula Junior

    May 18, 2010
    423
    La
    Full Name:
    Ric
    There are literally a dozen or more specialty insurance companies, I use Grundy, they are all a little different and thier underwriting guidelines actually change fairly often depending on their current growth statagy. Bottom line-check them all
     
  8. mikeyr

    mikeyr Formula 3

    Jun 17, 2004
    2,154
    Santa Barbara, CA.
    Full Name:
    Mike Rambour
    I went with Allstate who takes care of my other cars and motorcycle. Hagerty was $14 less per year then Allstate with a ridiculous mileage limit, i think it was 5,000 miles/year, Allstate put no limit on mileage.

    Yeah, there is the issue of what happens when i get in a accident, I think Hagerty would be better there since you insure with a set value up front and with Allstate I will have to argue but I was not about to settle for a limited mileage policy.
     
  9. ferraristyle1

    ferraristyle1 Formula Junior

    Aug 2, 2013
    264
    Baltimore, MD
    I use Allstate as well. The coverage on my 02 360 Spider that I just bought was less than my premier for my 02 996 Turbo that I sold to get the Ferrari. I have both my Cayenne GTS and Ferrari on the policy.

    When I asked, my Agent told me that even though the Ferrari is more expensive to repair, there are a lot more Porsche claims then Ferrari claims. Don't know how true that is but in either case it was like $300/year difference between the two cars.
     
  10. okiedude

    okiedude Formula 3

    Jul 11, 2011
    1,013
    Remulak
    Full Name:
    Blake
  11. LAracer

    LAracer Karting

    Jan 4, 2008
    131
    Northern NM
    Full Name:
    Phil
    Hagarty insured my '93 RX-7, but they would not insure my 355 for the same reason as you - my daily drivers are not new enough. Kind of insulting really. My daily drivers are a 2002 M5 and a 2006 A4. I don't want newer cars because I don't enjoy the depreciation hit; I don't know why this makes me a bad risk.

    I went with metlife, who ensure the other cars. The cost was reasonable, but there's no agreed value policy like there was with Hagarty.
     

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