Not happy with the F1 Gear Changes

Very similar to my friend's 01 360 F1. He almost planned to sell the car due to the slow take off and gear change. Finally he spent $2k for the latest TCU p/n 211023. All the issues have been fixed and loves his car since.

 

Worn clutch maybe?

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Yours already has it, so something is likely wrong.

 

If it's a 2003 or later I'd agree unless someone has downgraded it!

There is clearly something wrong with it or the set-up. Changes should be quicker if you keep your foot planted at 5k revs and after 7k revs in Sport mode they should be pretty instantaneous with a nice kick.
If you lift you are sending mixed messages to the TCU. It thinks you are slowing.
Contrary to popular belief there is a knack to driving F1 cars properly.

Have it looked at by a good tech with and SD.

 

There is definitely something wrong with the PIS settings on your transmission. I have the CS TCU in mine and changes are quite quick -- though probably not as quick as a 430. If I put it in Sport mode and keep my foot planted and I change at around 5K the transmission is banged into gear and the clutch slammed home. Definitely not slow.
Alan

 

F1 vs 3 pedal ..here we go again.. Sometimes less is better..I personally prefer 3 pedal to f1..Have F1 on my BMW.. Jusrt more fun to drive..

 

Try bringing the rpms up more between shifts.. be a bit more aggressive with the gas pedal..

R

 

Let's not forget what the manual states (for my 2004 360)


Page 3-23
Gear shifting will be “faster” if requested with the accelerator pedal pressed all the way down and over 7,000 rpm (sport mode selected)

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There is definately something wrong with the car.
There is no comparison with the selespeed even with the dna mode.
The gear changes in the 360 have to be quick and without any hesitation.
Are you sure that the car works 100% correctly?

Try this: upshift to third manually and at 50 miles, with third selected, floor it.
Does it have a small hesitation or it accelerates instantly?

 

Reverse gear is way too high on the 360, almost as high as 2nd gear, so lots of clutch slipping until she locks up (if you get that far) is pretty normal. The F430 has a higher numerical (lower speed) ratio reverse to help with the problem.

Trying to keep reverse gear small, I guess, or somebody wanted to go really fast in reverse.

 

I thought speed of F1 gear shift depends on position of gas pedal. faster shifts when pedal depressed more

 

It could be toast by now if it wasn't set up properly in the first place. I feel you need to get the car to someone who has the right equipment and knows how to use it. You definitely should not find that it shifts better or faster if you lift out of the accelerator as you shift.

 

Single clutch f-1 trannys are a love hate thing...some people have suggested something might be wrong, while that may be true, it's also possible that you might not enjoy this type of tranny. I had one in my M5 and it was def. better than the 360 IMHO....but I'd still prefer a 3 pedal car or a dual clutch. Just personal preference.

 

I agree with Mike.

Put it on Sport mode, push gas pedal hard and switch gears at 5K on up / try switching gears almost always at redline and gear shifts should be instantaneous.

If not, then yes, something is wrong and definitely take your car to a certified mechanic.

And yes, do not lift up on the gas pedal during gearshifts as the TCU will be confused thinking you are wanting to slow down.

Dan

 

Your 2004 model should have came with the latest TCU. Yes definitely the slow change in early cars are not clutch related. My friend spent $5000 to put a new clutch in and no improvement. Early TCU does not allow to change the PIS at all.

 

As noted above pretty much the first check is PIS which requires the dealer's computer - pulling it apart won't help at this stage - you have an effective up-to-date chip

 

Looks like you have the latest TCU already. Worth to check the PIS setting and clutch wear %.

 

Before doing anything, drive another one in the same route you evaluated yours.