You do not have the CS TCU installed. It's part number is 196986. What you do have is the latest TCU for the 360 which is very similar to the CS TCU.
easier said then done though, hard to find someone with one and that would let me drive it aswell Is it close enough to not bother with an upgrade?
I like very smooth shifts so I find that backing off the throttle slightly as I shift smooths it out by helping match the rpms. I feel as if the shifts aren't smooth it, is not as comfortable and would think the harder shifts where rpms aren't matched would cause more clutch wear
Ferrari-F1- You have the same software he has and the same TCU (with the same software) if you take a peek. Part number you will see is 211023. Low throttle setting and low revs equals slow shifts because nobody is in a hurry. Normal shifts are slower than Sport shifts, too. High throttle setting and high revs equals quick shifts, with the fastest shifts in Sport above 5500 rpm with wide open throttle. 150 ms minimum for a 360.
so you have to put your foot FLAT to the floor with SPORT MODE On and thats the only way to get it to change fast? If thats so then: 1. Its not the best car for around town driving because you cant drive them like that around the streets, firstly because its illegal and secondly because they are very reaponsive to be driven like that on the streets. 2. Im going to be getting alot of speeding tickets soon or lose my license very quickly So just to clear this up. To get this car to shift FAST you MUST FLOOR the thing right to the FLOOR till it wont go any further right? Ive only tried this once so far and it took off like a rocket and made a very loud noise and about 2 seconds later i slowed down again because ran out of road with all the cars in front. So, around town it will shift slowly and theres nothing that can be done about it? (Apart from lifting which definitely changes faster and smoother at low speeds). Is this correct?
I cannot relate to what you are experiencing. I would also recommend that you find another 360 to get a feel for how other ones shift.
I don't know why but I am getting the impression that the op is tugging our bird. I hope I'm wrong but the responses to our recommendations are getting a wise ass tone. No profile as well. You don't have to floor it all the way to the floor till it does not go any further but you also don't have to take your foot off the gas like your getting out of the car. What rpm you shifting at. How long you own the car. How many miles are on the odometer. You taking your foot completely off the gas pedal when shifting. Because if so. Learn to drive. If any lift it should be very slight. Almost a slight ankle pivot to achieve slight lift. Maybe your hands and feet are not coordinated. Maybe your lifting then pulling the paddle. I've seen some terrible shifting even with f1 cars. You may be one of them. R
My understanding is there is a big difference between cs tcu and 211023. Cs tcu shifts are double clutched on down shifts in regular mode and double clutched on up and down shifts in sport mode if you have the software on a regular 360 and race mode in an actual cs. Regular 360 sport button becomes race button if you install the software on 360. Double clutch means the car already gets the next gear ready and doesnt have to go thru the whole motion. If you want cs tcu, you can have some one program your tcu or buy the cs tcu for ~ 3k. Procedure to flash your tcu is online but you will need an actual cs tcu to copy on to eprom and replace that.
Flashing it is easy as its my job but getting the update is the hard part but yeh I could buy a CS ECU as you say, only problem is after reading everyones feedback im wondering if its really going to make a difference at all now. Finding another F1 360 would work but not easy to find. Wish I had gone for the Manual now
Yeah, this is your car telling you "Pull my hair Baby! I like it when you slam my pedal, I perform best for you because I like it rough!" Guess what? She's Italian and trust the manual, you won't hurt Her.
Its not that hard to find. Just go to a cars and coffee or ferrari meet in your area and u can at least get a ride along.
Mas, You're confusing this with the current cars. The CS TCU double DE-clutches on down changes which is effectively the equivalent heel-toeing a manual. The normal 360's do it Sport but it is less aggressive and noticeable. The modern double clutch cars have the next gear pre-selected so the changes are instant. It just swaps from one shaft to the other. The 360/430/599 etc F1 is a single clutch automated manual and according to the user manuals all of the 360's have the same maximum shift speed. It is clutch management, adjustability and driveability that improves with later versions. I would expect the difference between the OP's car and the CS to be smaller than say mine which has the earliest version. For me there is something wrong with either the set-up or a fault on the car. It needs a proper diagnosis.
Im so confused by all of this because you are all saying different things. Can I pick one of you who are really happy with your F1 gear Changes, now get into your car and go for a drive around the block no faster then 70mph (no highway action), drive along in 2nd gear at about 30mph and now change to 3rd gear without taking your foot of the gas pedal, was there a delay at all or was it instant fast change? If there was a delay then now go onto the highway and open her up, is she changing faster now or just the same as it was when you were around town? Im asking this because around town mine is delayed to change, its very noticebly slow, are your cars changing the exact same speed irrespective of whether your around town or flying like a rocket on the highway? If the answer to this is yes then my car has a problem that Ferrari cant find or me for that matter (so far).
I defer to mike. Hes right. I have read posts of some people who upgraded early tcu to lates 360 tcu and say they didnt really notice much of a difference. But I have never read where someone upgraded to cs tcu and didnt notice at least some improvements in shifting including those who went from later tcu to cs. So seems cs is a bigger jump noticeable by all. Having said that, imho, either your clutch is slipping too much and giving the feel of a protracted shift possibly due to incorrect pis setting OR you're expectations are along the lines of how an lp560 or 458 shift gears. Those cars shift instantly pa pa pa. No waiting no delay. Go to the dealer, let them drive it, and they can tell if adjustment is needed in the car or in your expectations.
Around town at 30 MPH it gives a very leisurely, slow change, just like when you change a manual. If you open her up, you should notice faster changes after 5000 RPM (foot to the floor). If you are in Sport and above 7000 RPM (again foot to the floor) the changes should be very fast and the clutch kicks back in. It is all in the user manual. To manage your expectations these are not twin clutch boxes and never give 'instant' changes but it should be very noticieable when it is doing the fastest changes versus the slow ones. They quote 150ms for the Sport changes and that feels about correct. It is certainly under 0.5s..... When in Sport and changing above 7000 RPM you can feel the difference between a 2nd to 3rd (3 moves of the gear change mechanism 2-N-3) change and 3rd to 4th change (single moves of the change mechanism 3-4) I'll defer to the tech's as to what could likely cause the car to change gear slowly in all conditions but it could be a hydraulic issue such as an actuator leak or air in the system, sticking release bearing etc.....It really isn't possible to diagnose properly over the internet but I believe you have an issue rather than the car not being to your satisfaction/expectation.
In my 355 the gear changes are much, much faster at high RPMs. Highway vs. street and the speed of the car has little to do with it. It's RPM and throttle position that matter. If your car shifts the same at 4k rpm as it does above 7k then there is something wrong with it. That's assuming that you never let off the gas. When I want fast shifts I floor it and leave it there.
