1986 STRAMAN TESTAROSSA CABRIO

sherpa23 · Mar 12, 2014

That's a GREAT dirt bike. Probably the best product to ever come out of Spain.

msdesignltd · Mar 12, 2014

sherpa23 said: ↑

What circus am I referring to? That must be a rhetorical question so I'll move on.

Let me be clear. I have absolutely no problem at all with anyone buying a car and making a profit on it. I will never begrudge anyone selling a car for a profit. I make plenty of money doing my own stuff and how anyone else makes their money (as long as it's honest) is of no concern to me.

However, one of the things to which I pay a lot of attention is seller transparency. I buy a fair amount of cars and I have a okay collection for a total amateur. Nonetheless, I probably do more buying than most people. Some of the things upon which I place a great deal of importance are the motives of the seller and their level of honesty because it most definitely relates to the car.

When Michael bought two Testarossas and did his whole thing in multiple threads about "now is the time to buy Testarossas" and shouted it from the rooftops in all of his threads, he said he was going against his own advice and selling ONE car because he had to sell a car to pay for a new daily driver that was coming in a few weeks. So going by his own words, he made it sound like he got in a little financial trouble and bought too many cars on impulse and had to dump one. No big deal; it happens. So he sold the black car and made a profit. Now he is going back on what he stated in his many threads and selling the other. Now, people always have the right to change their minds but as a buyer, the whole thing seems disingenuous to me. That's my opinion and I know that I'm not alone.

Again, I have no problem with anyone selling a car for profit. But if that's their only motivation to buy the car in the first place, just go ahead and say it. It's not a crime to be motivated purely by money.

As an aside, Haig, you on the other hand is someone that I would buy a car from all day long. You have gone out of your way to represent your car properly and present the potential buyers with everything that your car is and isn't. You've been extraordinarily transparent about the sale of your car and as a buyer, I sincerely appreciate that. And I do think that it's a great car, better than a great many of the Testarossas in the marketplace.
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Funny again....
Circus...me or you?
I really have to say...
You need to " Get a Life "
You place far far too much Emphasis on other peoples doings..
you say you buy cars as well ...maybe you lose money on them ..
or maybe its just sour grapes..
For C sake..this is an Automotive BLOG site, not a dating site..

GET A LIFE!

sherpa23 · Mar 12, 2014

msdesignltd said: ↑

Funny again....
Circus...me or you?
I really have to say...
You need to " Get a Life "
You place far far too much Emphasis on other peoples doings..
you say you buy cars as well ...maybe you lose money on them ..
or maybe its just sour grapes..
For C sake..this is an Automotive BLOG site, not a dating site..

GET A LIFE!
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Wow. You seem so upset. Did something I say hit a nerve?

ferraripete · Mar 12, 2014

sherpa23 said: ↑

What circus am I referring to? That must be a rhetorical question so I'll move on.

Let me be clear. I have absolutely no problem at all with anyone buying a car and making a profit on it. I will never begrudge anyone selling a car for a profit. I make plenty of money doing my own stuff and how anyone else makes their money (as long as it's honest) is of no concern to me.

However, one of the things to which I pay a lot of attention is seller transparency. I buy a fair amount of cars and I have a okay collection for a total amateur. Nonetheless, I probably do more buying than most people. Some of the things upon which I place a great deal of importance are the motives of the seller and their level of honesty because it most definitely relates to the car.

When Michael bought two Testarossas and did his whole thing in multiple threads about "now is the time to buy Testarossas" and shouted it from the rooftops in all of his threads, he said he was going against his own advice and selling ONE car because he had to sell a car to pay for a new daily driver that was coming in a few weeks. So going by his own words, he made it sound like he got in a little financial trouble and bought too many cars on impulse and had to dump one. No big deal; it happens. So he sold the black car and made a profit. Now he is going back on what he stated in his many threads and selling the other. Now, people always have the right to change their minds but as a buyer, the whole thing seems disingenuous to me. That's my opinion and I know that I'm not alone.

Again, I have no problem with anyone selling a car for profit. But if that's their only motivation to buy the car in the first place, just go ahead and say it. It's not a crime to be motivated purely by money.

As an aside, Haig, you on the other hand is someone that I would buy a car from all day long. You have gone out of your way to represent your car properly and present the potential buyers with everything that your car is and isn't. You've been extraordinarily transparent about the sale of your car and as a buyer, I sincerely appreciate that. And I do think that it's a great car, better than a great many of the Testarossas in the marketplace.
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I agree with all written here. I have no problem w/ Michael selling the cars for a profit either but it was done w/ a bit of a tom sawyer white washing of the fence sales selling tonality...

in any event, these are clearly nice examples of a tr both stock and chopped...good luck with the sale!!

msdesignltd · Mar 12, 2014

ferraripete said: ↑

I agree with all written here. I have no problem w/ Michael selling the cars for a profit either but it was done w/ a bit of a tom sawyer white washing of the fence sales selling tonality...

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I must be Good!
It worked! The Black car set a record price.

BTW...I caught the cat before it got out of the bag...
Or maybe I let it out of the bag..
Either way, TR's will follow Boxers now!

I'll repeat what I said before
Now is the time to buy TR's
I will buy another in a heartbeat , if I see one.

Thank You!

Mr.Chairman · Mar 12, 2014

I'm almost sorry I let you off the hook for the cigars.. my mistake.. I agree, find it odd that now both are up for sale.. Everyone is entitled to change their mind so be it.. Maybe msdesign just like to buy cars and turn them over for profit.. its ok.. his money, his car, his decision.. I'll tip my hat to you ms.. if anything he is bringing up the numbers for the Testarossa.. that is good.. How he is going about it - Meh.. I think you can be a little dicky ms.. I can be dicky at times as well.. doesnt mean I dont like you, I just think you dont mind driving down a road with a sheet of sandpaper in your hand touching some of the spectators arms and ass when you pass along the way.. No worries.. mine will buff out and will be the same as before.. Good luck with the sale and you owe me a Johnny Gold.. .. Your not off the hook for that.. Pony up b*tch.. lol.. I'm guessing that you had every intention of selling both for the right money from the get go.. thats my assessment and I think a fair one.. key word being fair. Its ok but your gonna get some feedback like it or not...

Be well.

R

134282 · Mar 12, 2014

I would go homeless before selling a properly sorted Straman-cut Testarossa.

jpohl402 · Mar 12, 2014

134282 said: ↑

I would go homeless before selling a properly sorted Straman-cut Testarossa.
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Lol

Forgive me for asking without doing my due diligence research - but the Straman "features" are essentially the Cabrio aspect, correct?
Glws

msdesignltd · Mar 12, 2014

Mr.Chairman said: ↑

I'm almost sorry I let you off the hook for the cigars.. my mistake.. I agree, find it odd that now both are up for sale.. Everyone is entitled to change their mind so be it.. Maybe msdesign just like to buy cars and turn them over for profit.. its ok.. his money, his car, his decision.. I'll tip my hat to you ms.. if anything he is bringing up the numbers for the Testarossa.. that is good.. How he is going about it - Meh.. I think you can be a little dicky ms.. I can be dicky at times as well.. doesnt mean I dont like you, I just think you dont mind driving down a road with a sheet of sandpaper in your hand touching some of the spectators arms and ass when you pass along the way.. No worries.. mine will buff out and will be the same as before.. Good luck with the sale and you owe me a Johnny Gold.. .. Your not off the hook for that.. Pony up b*tch.. lol.. I'm guessing that you had every intention of selling both for the right money from the get go.. thats my assessment and I think a fair one.. key word being fair. Its ok but your gonna get some feedback like it or not...

Be well.

R
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Thanks for the good comment part but!

It aint sandpaper,
Its Emory cloth, real fine..with plenty of oil on it, works on skin real sweet!
Most people Enjoy it

This thread is like a challenging game of Ping Pong..
Keep em coming boys!

134282 · Mar 12, 2014

jpohl402 said: ↑

Forgive me for asking without doing my due diligence research - but the Straman "features" are essentially the Cabrio aspect, correct?
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Straman did a few things, but in this case, it's just the missing roof - which I happen to find extremely attractive. I'm not really drawn to exclusivity, but Straman didn't cut that many Testarossas - and not all cut TRs were done properly. Michael's car is one of those that was done right.

msdesignltd said: ↑

Touche'

I am very surprised you are not Homeless already!
What have you got to show?

My Daddy always said..." Gotta fight fire with fire "
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Wow. I'm sorry if you misinterpreted my compliment for having such a stunning car as some kind of an affront on your decision to sell it. But you're right, I don't have a Ferrari, so what the hell do I know?

msdesignltd · Mar 12, 2014

Wow. I'm sorry if you misinterpreted my compliment for having such a stunning car as some kind of an affront on your decision to sell it. But you're right, I don't have a Ferrari, so what the hell do I know?[/QUOTE]

My Bad, Deleted
Its gang up on MSD day so I took it you were in the mix..
You can delete yours if you deem it fit!

134282 · Mar 12, 2014

msdesignltd said: ↑

My Bad, Deleted
Its gang up on MSD day so I took it you were in the mix..
You can delete yours if you deem it fit!
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I've made more than my fair share of overreactions and misinterpretations; no harm, no foul. I still think it's crazy to sell the cut TR - it's just such an awesome car - but to each his own. I imagine the Cobra is a lot less of a pain in the ass. Just be careful; the power-to-weight ratio in that thing is intimidating.

jpohl402 · Mar 12, 2014

134282 said: ↑

Straman did a few things, but in this case, it's just the missing roof - which I happen to find extremely attractive. I'm not really drawn to exclusivity, but Straman didn't cut that many Testarossas - and not all cut TRs were done properly. Michael's car is one of those that was done right.

Wow. I'm sorry if you misinterpreted my compliment for having such a stunning car as some kind of an affront on your decision to sell it. But you're right, I don't have a Ferrari, so what the hell do I know?
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I knew exactly what you meant about going Homeless 134
Thanks for info on the beautiful topless TR

Testarossa Lover · Mar 12, 2014

sherpa23 said: ↑

What circus am I referring to? That must be a rhetorical question so I'll move on.

Let me be clear. I have absolutely no problem at all with anyone buying a car and making a profit on it. I will never begrudge anyone selling a car for a profit. I make plenty of money doing my own stuff and how anyone else makes their money (as long as it's honest) is of no concern to me.

However, one of the things to which I pay a lot of attention is seller transparency. I buy a fair amount of cars and I have a okay collection for a total amateur. Nonetheless, I probably do more buying than most people. Some of the things upon which I place a great deal of importance are the motives of the seller and their level of honesty because it most definitely relates to the car.

When Michael bought two Testarossas and did his whole thing in multiple threads about "now is the time to buy Testarossas" and shouted it from the rooftops in all of his threads, he said he was going against his own advice and selling ONE car because he had to sell a car to pay for a new daily driver that was coming in a few weeks. So going by his own words, he made it sound like he got in a little financial trouble and bought too many cars on impulse and had to dump one. No big deal; it happens. So he sold the black car and made a profit. Now he is going back on what he stated in his many threads and selling the other. Now, people always have the right to change their minds but as a buyer, the whole thing seems disingenuous to me. That's my opinion and I know that I'm not alone.

Again, I have no problem with anyone selling a car for profit. But if that's their only motivation to buy the car in the first place, just go ahead and say it. It's not a crime to be motivated purely by money.

As an aside, Haig, you on the other hand is someone that I would buy a car from all day long. You have gone out of your way to represent your car properly and present the potential buyers with everything that your car is and isn't. You've been extraordinarily transparent about the sale of your car and as a buyer, I sincerely appreciate that. And I do think that it's a great car, better than a great many of the Testarossas in the marketplace.
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I get your statement and how you believe in it. If I was in the market for a car, I would differently evaluate seller's post and make my decision if I want to deal with him or not. It is all about establishing credibility and I get that too.

By the way, thank you for your positive remarks regarding my post. I am like you as well, instead of ton of cars, I am have multiple 2nd homes and investment properties. I evaluate buyers based on their approach and I am not fooled yet by those who wanted to rub the accident issue in my face. Don't people realize that this is a small world??

Looks like Michael got a new toy. Congrats on that but I would have kept the TR over that beautiful example Cobra. That's just me...

Jack Daniels Esq · Mar 14, 2014

Oh man - what a crock - get a life about sums it up - I might have missed it, but didnt see any green on the table, y'all

Jack

FUNRARI · Mar 14, 2014

Very cool, reminds me of playing arcade driving games in the 80's, if I owned this car it would always be top less

I recently saw one in Va, pretty car.

bobzdar · Mar 14, 2014

sherpa23 said: ↑

What circus am I referring to? That must be a rhetorical question so I'll move on.

Let me be clear. I have absolutely no problem at all with anyone buying a car and making a profit on it. I will never begrudge anyone selling a car for a profit. I make plenty of money doing my own stuff and how anyone else makes their money (as long as it's honest) is of no concern to me.

However, one of the things to which I pay a lot of attention is seller transparency. I buy a fair amount of cars and I have a okay collection for a total amateur. Nonetheless, I probably do more buying than most people. Some of the things upon which I place a great deal of importance are the motives of the seller and their level of honesty because it most definitely relates to the car.

When Michael bought two Testarossas and did his whole thing in multiple threads about "now is the time to buy Testarossas" and shouted it from the rooftops in all of his threads, he said he was going against his own advice and selling ONE car because he had to sell a car to pay for a new daily driver that was coming in a few weeks. So going by his own words, he made it sound like he got in a little financial trouble and bought too many cars on impulse and had to dump one. No big deal; it happens. So he sold the black car and made a profit. Now he is going back on what he stated in his many threads and selling the other. Now, people always have the right to change their minds but as a buyer, the whole thing seems disingenuous to me. That's my opinion and I know that I'm not alone.

Again, I have no problem with anyone selling a car for profit. But if that's their only motivation to buy the car in the first place, just go ahead and say it. It's not a crime to be motivated purely by money.

As an aside, Haig, you on the other hand is someone that I would buy a car from all day long. You have gone out of your way to represent your car properly and present the potential buyers with everything that your car is and isn't. You've been extraordinarily transparent about the sale of your car and as a buyer, I sincerely appreciate that. And I do think that it's a great car, better than a great many of the Testarossas in the marketplace.
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It was fairly obvious to me that his earlier threads fawning over the cars with tons of pics were basically for sale ads fishing for offers. I'd be surprised if that cobra doesn't pop up for sale in a couple of months. Not a big deal, but you can tell when he mentioned nothing about wanting the cars since he was a kid, what the acquisition process was etc. They read as basically glorified sales ads with no price listed.

So, how much for the cobra? Its a stunner.

msdesignltd · Mar 14, 2014

Sorry if I truly upset someone!

After owning 3 boxers and 5 dinos
The testarossa's thrill faded fast for me.
Great Cars are my sole passion.
I find now I need greater.

So... How much will you give me for the cobra.
this one is really a supercar

BTW...look at my avatar
Had that for 10 years now.
Been dreaming of that car since 85'
Chose a 308 over a 288 that year
Big mistake, have to correct it.
Most likely when I have that car I will hold it a little longer
Cant wait.

Next

134282 · Mar 14, 2014

Michael, any chance you remember the VINs to your black Testarossa, and the other Ferraris you've owned? I have the serial numbers of this Testarossa and the Boxer you used to own; but just those two.

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msdesignltd · Mar 15, 2014

134282 said: ↑

Michael, any chance you remember the VINs to your black Testarossa, and the other Ferraris you've owned? I have the serial numbers of this Testarossa and the Boxer you used to own; but just those two.

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Most were posted here through the years
Owned the dinos in late 80's dino registry has a few
08232 was my last dino
47493 was my last boxer
This black tr is 69039
Have to dig deep on monday
For older cars

deichenb · Mar 15, 2014

Hi Michael,

The 1983 injected Boxer was c/n 49473.

My Best,
David

msdesignltd · Mar 15, 2014

deichenb said: ↑

Hi Michael,

The 1983 injected Boxer was c/n 49473.

My Best,
David
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Oops.
Thank you
Must learn not to post after 10 pm
Your boxer titled 84'
Was my greatest pride and joy
Hope you are enjoying all the trophies
And accolades it brings you!

Michael

deichenb · Mar 15, 2014

Absolutely fantastic car. Production was 1983. Best of luck chasing a 288.

msdesignltd · Sep 7, 2017

msdesignltd said: ↑

Sorry if I truly upset someone!

Great Cars are my sole passion.

Next
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Correction!
Great cars and great car photography
Are my greatest passions
But i am sure you knew that already
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godabitibi · Mar 15, 2014

Michael if you're selling all your cars to get a 288 that is a very good reason. This car is my all time greatest Ferrari.

I hope you find one!

Good luck!

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