Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

Oh, I don't think so. The 5 year old 458 holds its own against the brand new 991TT. Ferrari 458 Italia vs Porsche 911 Turbo PDK (991) [29794575] The 4WD Porsche launches better as it is only logical, but the 458 catches up when it finally finds traction (at around 160 km/h) and then passes ahead.

 

What do you mean 'hold its own'? it's not supposed to just hold its own..it's supposed to be end all be all within its class. it's $100K more expensive, it's lighter, has more hp, laps Hockenheim slower. nevermind the 'averages'. let's look at sharp end capability. At optimal, the 991 Turbo is half a second, yes HALF of a second quicker than 458 in 0-60, 2.6 vs 3.1. In the numbers game, it's clearly not a 'leader' but fast enough to not be embarrassed as the 'x factor' in ownership is more important. What you do get for your extra 100k is of course...looks, sound, 'excitement', status, and yup yup...SOUL..whatever that really means.

 

he should've spec'd it in the 'chrome' blue and carbon, with silver wheels. much more striking. or silver and carbon with gunmetal wheels.

 

As a turbo S owner I must admit some things to this post,
First of all this is 911 turbo not turbo S (520hp VS 560hp for turbo S) but even a turbo
with 50hp les than 458 can defeat it in lap time, 1/4mile/ 0-100km etc...
also some of that figures is not correct for example 0-200km for turbo s is 9.6s(autobild) but company figure is 10.2(as always it's conservative) and 10.6s zeperfs.com's figure is a Porsche figure and it's also conservative, in reality it is 10s flat for turbo,
and it is very questionable why this site compare 570hp Ferrari with 520hp turbo and not with 560hp turbo s, but it is funny to me even turbo can defeat 458 in the hockenheim lap time...

 

A 2014 Turbo/S is faster than a 2009 458? I for one am shocked.

 

And even faster than a 2014 458 special!

 

What are Ferrari going to do? Do you think it's possible that they might consider replacing the 458 with a faster model?

 

Why? Turbo has been quicker for a while now...rear engine and all wheel drive have a large impact on traction and off the line quickness...not to mention gobs of torque. 911 turbo and turbo S with PDK have been measured under 3.0 0-60mph for several years now, back to 997 versions.


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I was joking of course I'd be shocked if the new Porsche Turbo was in any way slower than the 458

 

The figures on that site are not factory numbers. They are the average aggregates that these cars have achieved in various magazine tests. So you can say that they are as reliable as they can get. What we see is that a car that was launched 5 years ago is as fast as a brand new 911 Turbo. I believe that that's a huge compiment to Ferrari.

 

Porsche 911 Turbo S 2013 (type 991) - Acceleration 0-298 kmh - Launch control - [HD]
991 turbo S 0-200km/h in 9.2s

I don't think a 991 turbo is slower 1.4s for 200km/h
By the way I must to add as a Porsche collector(I only Drive Porsche cars in my whole life), always I respected Ferrari, and if I back to the subject of this thread then I want
to say la Ferrari is the only reliable hyper car to compete against my favorite hyper car 918 spyder( my car is a weissach pak and I will receive it in less than a month from now)
of course that's my opinion but I can not compare a P1 against spectacular 918 of Porsche
or sentimental La Ferrari, for example Porsche and Ferrari as always using their own technology but McLaren used a Nissan based engine + Recardo tech and there for unlike
McLaren F1/BMW engine, it is McLaren P1/Nissan-Recardo engine, of course P1 is a great
hyper car but for me it is not comparable with tech demonstrator and very reliable Porsche or Ferrari, and I admit again it's my opinion only!

 

IMHO some people fail to relies buying a Ferrari its not based on acceleration alone yes it's a big factor but the 0-60 mph is overrated marketing hype to me at least I buy a car for a full driving experience and for some buying a xxx car for exclusivity and some they just fan of one company than another.

But to say Ferrari only did 3.0 sec to 60mph so it's slower than xxx car you just narrowing what Ferrari all about.

A Nissan GT-R Nismo which i like alot will do something like 2.7sec to 60mph and will run the ring faster than a Turbo S or a 458 Speciale now does this makes me buy one maybe does it holds me from buying a Turbo S or a 458 sure no.

The 0-60 / top speed is just a luxury to me having the baddest out there and it's just ego, and there will be always something faster.

Until now i ran my Veyron once from a stop w/o LC and never went top speed and never well.

And for someone to say Mclaren aren't reliable it's not true at all ! Did you own one ?

Funny thing I can say a Porsche aren't reliable because they catching fire this days but I won't because I own them and I know they been so good so far but i know nothing is perfect.

And comparing the P1 to the 918 I still believe the P1 got the upper hand but only time will tell.

Mbn

 

I don't say McLaren aren't reliable, I know McLaren very well, it is because one of my close friends recently received a stunning P1 and I spend some time as a passenger and even I test it as a driver too, I want to say(from my point of view ) McLaren is not reliable as Porsche is, just look at more than 30000 victories in elite class races Porsche
achieved( one of latest at Sebring 12h last week) where is McLaren?

 

By the way, I have had the driving experience with both 918 spyder and McLaren P1, also I drove both Bugatti Veyron and Veyron SS, in my own experiences 918 was faster
than Veyron SS , but P1 was not as fast as SS.

 

DAYUM!!!
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Lots of snow in Dubai.

 

hey, the way things are going, you never know...snow in Dubai anyhoo...decent render. don't know what the fascination is with police cars being of the exotic variety. That's the showroom in NY, was it not?

 

Yes - a rendering using a photo taken at the Greenwich dealer. Originated from here:

https://www.facebook.com/WRPProd/photos/a.632127650135109.1073741828.628136220534252/824139050933967/?type=1&stream_ref=10

>8^)
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Putting aside the "Police" graphics I think the green stripes on the white P1 look pretty cool.

 

the blue example, with silver wheels, was that a customer car, or dealer?

 

Which one? Both cars you might be asking about (#001 and #046) are privately owned.

>8^)
ER

 

blue similar to Ferrari/Maserati Blu Mediterranean...similar to Lambo 'electric' blue. I'd really like to see more pics of that P1.

 

Sorry but you know Mclaren very well because your friend owns one ? Is that how you based your opinion on ?

You free to think and I won't take this conversation to what is better more reliable car I was replaying to McLaren aren't reliable comment which is so far to me based on no first hand long expriance.

And I'll skip this racing history thing too but mclaren raced mid 90's and everybody knows what it did and holding the record for the fastest car until the B came thats enough for me.

Also Mclaren just been into market for 3 years now and manufactured 3 cars.

how many porsche built and how many models you go figure or just drive few blocks and count the models parked around.

But if i based the racing history theory then I won't buy any Lamborghini, Mclaren(not counting formula 1), Bugatti, Koenigsegg,Pagani etc...just because they didn't win many races ?!!!

No not me .

And good that you test drove them and came up with your conclusion even so I don't see the 918 will go from 0-186 under 18 sec yet 17sec or its that's raw to run the P1 on track.

my owning expriance with the above cars minus the 918 which if you go back you will see I was considering one but it didn't look faster to me than the SS or the P1 and that's not the reason I'm not getting one at least for now.

At the end as i always says no one will go wrong with any of the 3.


Mbn

 

The question is if zakaria drove the P1 in race mode...

 

The early McLaren 12c's have some minor electronics problems but now the cars are reliable. The engine is a race engine and is robust and reliable for turbocharging. Porsches is one of the most reliable sports cars today. They test the hell out of the 918 driving it around the world. Even Ferrari and Lamborghini today are far more reliable than a decade or two ago.