'Red Bull's commitment has limits'

'Red Bull's commitment has limits'

'Red Bull's commitment has limits' | Planet F1 | Formula One News


Red Bull founder Dietrich Mateschitz has warned that the energy drink manufacturer isn't infinitely committed to Formula One, after Daniel Ricciardo was excluded from the Australian Grand Prix over disputed fuel flow sensor data.
Speaking to Vienna-based publication Kurier, the Austrian billionaire admitted that Red Bull could leave the sport if it is no longer producing the desired results.
"The fact is that the federation's sensor has given inaccurate values since the beginning of the (winter) tests," Mateschitz told Kurier.
"We can prove that we were within the limits [in Australia].
"The question is not so much about whether it makes economic sense, but more to do with the sporting value, political influence and the like.
"We have had it all but on these things from our perspective there is a clear limit to what we can accept."
The normally private Mateschitz added that he is somewhat frustrated by the FIA's decision to take the sport into a greener, quieter era with the focus on more efficient V6 engines.
"Formula One should be again what it always has been: the ultimate discipline," the 69-year-old added.
"It is not there to set new records in fuel consumption, or so you can talk at a whisper during a race and the greatest thrill is the squealing of the tyres.
"I consider it equally absurd that we are going a second slower than last year and that the junior series GP2 is almost as fast as formula one with a fraction of the budget.
Despite his dislike for the new F1 regulations, Mateschitz added that the reigning World Champions will continue developing their car throughout the season in the hope of catching up with the Mercedes-powered cars.
"We are working around the clock with our partner Renault and will make another big step in the next two to three weeks. There are 18 races to go," he continued.
"We will be back."

 

I understand his point and would probably say the same thing. His perspective about the direction of F1 is particularly on target, good for him.

 

+1

 

remember the good ol' days, when Ferrari was the premiere team threatening to pull out of the series at the drop of a hat?

 

(a lesson in the use of satire)

Wait... I thought everyone was just fine with the new greener and quieter cars and it was all about the racing?

 

Everyone is fine with everything when they're winning.

 

"It's not fair. I don't want to play anymore..." seems to say the Red Bull boss.

In all honesty, I am wondering why Red Bull stays so long in F1 and with 2 teams, on top of all the other sporting involvements: rallying, F2,F3, air races, boat racing, motorcycle racing, etc...

There must be a point when there is so much exposure that the public gets tired of it and it become counter-productive, surely. May advertising experts could put me right there.

Maybe Dietrich Mateschitz announced that the end of RB participation in F1 is already on the horizon. The FIA new rules may well be what will trigger his departure.

Two teams for sale in the next few years?

Apparently Serbian Stefanovich is looking for a team to buy...

 

Good. Bye bye. No one else seemed to have a problem with their sensor, just Red Bull. They were told of the issue and decided to use it anyway. They got what they deserved.

 

Pulling a Luca...

Soon he's going to say they're looking at Le Mans

 

Bye Felicia!

 

Mateschitz: don't let the door hit you on the way out!


RedBull gives you wings and maglomania

 

Uh-oh, the last time he said that he got new tyres that suited his cars better.

 

Bad winners, bad losers.

 

+1. Every team on the grid has a 'limit'.

 

If they had come 1st and another team had the fuel problem would he still be complaining about green tech and noise and sensors?

Far easier to walk away when you are losing.

 

unlike some of us here, Mateschitz gets it.

 

Probably, this wasn't what he signed up for and gave a green light to years ago.

He is commenting on two separate issues, and without the first issue(no team restricted by a sensor), there wouldn't be a second issue(Political games of who gets sensors that read higher or lower). Look at what else Red Bull is involved in and he's right that F1 might not fit their vision anymore.

I personally like the changes to this year's rules, outside of the fuel flow sensor allowing the game to be "rigged" for extra excitement/ratings.

Ask yourself this, if Kevin M.'s car had a sensor that read low, why would they complain?

I hope this appeal restores the WDC points at least. Because RBR did ignore the stewards, I do not see WCC points being restored unless the FIA re-works the system into something that can be policed more fairly.

 

And Porsche. But then, Porsche has always been bad losers, haven't they?

Porsche also raise sensor concerns | Planet F1 | Formula One | News, Standings, Results, Features, Video

 

its simple enough. he can walk away and take his money with him. those of you encouraging him to do so dont understand that there wont likely be somebody else to replace him or his money in the very near futures. then who comes after that?

the sport needs to make sense to people who are willing to spend the money. if the public doesnt like the ugly whisper cars running on fumes and electrons, then it wont be worth sponsors spending money on. and then the formula will be changed or it dies.

 

Red Bull Boss Dietrich Mateschitz Hints At F1 Exit


Red Bull Boss Dietrich Mateschitz Hints At F1 Exit


One bad race doesn't make a bad Formula 1 season but the waves from Red Bull's poor Australian Grand Prix continue to ripple outwards as they prepare for the next race.
The disqualification of Daniel Ricciardo from second place in the season opener for exceeding the maximum fuel-flow rate soured what had been a reasonably successful GP after a dismal pre-season during which the world champions suffered serious reliability and technical problems.

The team is appealing the Australian GP stewards' decision and a hearing with the FIA has been set for 14 April but the whole saga has left a sour taste in Red Bull's boss Dietrich Mateschitz's mouth and he has now issued a warning to the sport that his company can't be relied upon to stick around in F1.
Although the billionaire has alluded to Red Bull quitting F1 before, it's the fact that he rarely gives interviews that makes this outburst all the more interesting. Talking to Austrian newspaer, Kurier, he said of Ricciardo's punishment: "The fact is that the Federation’s sensor has given inaccurate values since the beginning of the tests.
“We can prove that we were within the limits in Australia."
When Mateschitz has previously talked of pulling Red Bull out of F1 it has been more to do with economics but he told Kurier that the question now was more to do with "sporting value, political influence and the like".
“We have had it all, but on these things, from our perspective, there is a clear limit to what we can accept,” he added.
Although frustrated with how the season has begun, the Austrian has not given up yet and determined his team will catch Mercedes, something that team boss Christian Horner echoed this week.
Speaking to Autosport, Horner insisted that the team always knew it had the "basis of a good car".
"We know we have got issues to sort out, we just have to work hard to get on top of them quickly, together with the guys from Renault. We are doing our best to support them," he added.
The defending champions go into this weekend's Malaysian Grand Prix on the back foot as they try to recover ground lost to their rivals, particularly those powered by Mercedes engine and who made the most impact at Melbourne.

 

Talk about sour grapes , Pi$$ off then.

 

F1 did well for about 60 years without Herr Mateschitz.

His money is part of the arms race and partly why costs went sky high.

 

Err, how many threads are you going to start on this topic?!.....

Could get almost as bad as the multiple 'end is nigh' threads!



Cheers,
Ian

 

There are teams ready to take his teams place.

 

Do I miss Benetton ?

I think they knit jumpers

Red Bull ?

Kiddies drink