'Red Bull's commitment has limits'

Because at Le Mans they have fuel flow limitations too.

 

I wonder if Mateschitz would have said he was considering pulling the plug on F1, if his car had retained 2nd place.

Personally I highly doubt it...it's tough at the top.

 

you guys laughing at mateschitz are lost.
he has said it out loud....you can bet your ass that ferrari and maclaren and maybe some others have been expressing their thoughts to bernie and todt.

dont be such sheep - when the rules suck, admit they suck and try to change them.

right now the rules suck. everybody knows it.

 

tmo F1 is already boring for years.

I started looking 35 years ago. Those times were indeed the best. ( and not because "in the earlier days everything was better" )

surely some drivers lost their lives, surely some championships were won by illigal cars but hell, it was F1 and everything was aimed on only winning.

For the last decade i really had hard times to stay awake looking at it.
Now it turned green and indeed GP2 is almost quicker.
F1 should be the summit in autosport. Providing all the freedom to each and every individual team to think out of the box and come with smart solutions.


Just looking back, what sticked in my memory:
6 weelers (tyrell, Williams), Brabhams with huge fans, lotus' introduction of side skirted wing cars, active suspension(Williams), a 1500 CC turbo struggling in between all 3 L engines ( but finally pulled it off, Renault) side by side battles without the annoucements, no "battle between xx and yy will be investigated after the finish" crap) etc etc.

F1 used to be magic, the drivers used to be really special.
Currently it's regulated to death. And lost all appeal. And me.

 

Fully agree!! that sums it all up nicely.
+++1

 

Has there ever been a time when teams were happy with the cars and rules? Really ever?

 

I doubt it.

The sore loosers like Mateschitz will always cry foul when things aren't going their way.

 

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You can say the same of Mercedes and Renault and Honda.

 

This is dead on. The greatest suspense produced these days is hoping the engineers won't get on the radio and tell the driver to back off once he finally manages to get close to the car in front. It's more like watching a fleet of commercial airliners fly from origin to destination.

 

Perhaps, once RB leaves, it will be replaced by a car manufacture not a drink manufacture.

 

Given their effect on the sport how would that be an improvement?
Marketplace relevance has given us hushed hybrids. Red Bull has given the sport a bit of old fashioned sex appeal.

 

The 'drink' maker has done a nice job of defeating 'car makers'. Being a car maker does not appear to provide any advantage at all. Just ask BMW, Toyota etc etc.

 

Good point.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

How? I don't recall them hiring a super model to drive??

 

Has it been so long that we've forgotten what glamor in F1 even looked like?

Those carping at RB as a "Drinks Maker" risk coming off as petty ankle biters.

 

It would be interesting for me to go through and the read the posts calling Mateschitza whiner and mentioning where the door is - and to see if they complained of the exact same things he just said in this article. Looks pretty hypocritical on the outset to me.

Personally, I'm ok with the slower cornering speeds and harder to drive cars - I think its a + compared to the slot car like racing with the traction control of past years. I do not agree with him over the laptimes - want records - go for land speed records, not F1.

Want noise - NHRA baby, F1 engines just are not going to compare in the noise department with 0-300MPH in <4 seconds. F1 needs to be quieter as urban/housing has sprung up around many of the classic tracks.

I do agree with him on all fuel related points - drivers should get to push hard - not wander around saving fuel. The SC periods meant we got to see some racing going on, but it may not have been so otherwise.

 

You took the words from my mouth.

 

I think the reactions to DM aren't necessarily disagreeing with his complaints. I think people are taking issue with him making threats.

 

Fair enough.

 

What about the Lotus of today with 2 Penile extensions on the front? That doesn't count?

 

Good point.
Just wish it wasn't on a car that carried the Lotus name.

 

I didnt see a threat but a statement of the obvious. Every team has a 'limit'. He is not doing anything that LdM has done even more frequently in the past. For an owner he is very much a quiet one Id say.

 

I wish them, and Ferrari would act on their threat. F1 today is not what it was, not even what it was a few years ago. So why should these guys think it will get better and not worse?

I barely watch it nowadays and do not miss it anymore since everytime i watch it's always the same technical and regulated BS.

 

I hope he does and I hope others leave too and let Bernie and his idea of Gran Prix racing die. From the ashes real formula racing can reemerge.