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Malaysia Airlines loses contact with B777-200 / MH370 enroute from KUL to PEK

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  1. Chupacabra

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    Could be, I suppose. He obviously would have known the limitations of the CVR, etc. Of course, if he would willingly kill that many other people, would he really give a rat's butt if his family gets any loot? The machinations of the deranged mind are not often easily explained, I know.
     
  2. Tcar

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    The plane didn't crash in the Indian Ocean until the wreckage is found there.
     
  3. Zack

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    Genius.
     
  4. PSk

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    From what I've read this is poor reporting and in fact this was after meeting with families that were there and then texting families that had left their mobile numbers requesting that they be contacted as soon as any news is available.
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  5. snj5

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    China demanding satellite data. I infer that they have concern so as not to trust Malaysia either.

    Putting on my tinfoil hat for a moment, there may be something or someone on that plane that China is more than interested in.
     
  6. nerofer

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    What we have here is, word for word:
    "The Chinese Ministry for Foreign Affairs hopes that the United Kingdom will accept communicating the Inmarsat data it used for its analysis".

    Rgds
     
  7. 88Testarossa

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    How many of you are willing to put up your hard earned money to recover the plane and the black box?


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  8. Dubya

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    Boeing will probably fund the cost of recovering the FDR.... They will want to clear the aircraft as a faultless design, and demonstrate that it was humans that created this tragedy.
     
  9. Vinny Bourne

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    See the map

    http://go.bloomberg.com/multimedia/files/2014/03/missing-malaysia-flight5.png


    If it is determined with proof that it went down southwest of Perth where it is suspected to have done, then, the only logical conclusion is an extremely odd hijack or suicide.


    Because they would have had to have crossed land after making their 180 degree turn from their last know position and flown for HOURS. Even with Mr. Magoo at the controls a badly damaged plane could have landed back on Malaysian soil or the big target that is Australia. It would not have ended up or reached where it is suspected to have ditched if damaged or operated by sane people.
     
  10. nerofer

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  11. Peloton25

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    Who says the conclusion has to be logical?

    While the scenarios you propose are not to be discounted, proving them at this point as the only possibilities is impossible and even suggesting them to be the only explanations seems short-sighted.

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  12. tundraphile

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    From what I understand the door is locked with a keypad and can be opened from the outside by the crew.

    To other posts:
    1) The US military probably isn't showing their hand in all this. There is really nothing in it for them to disclose the abilities of sophisticated radar to track planes. With that said, the particular stretch of ocean where the plane appears to have went down is one of the most remote places on Earth and seemingly of little strategic benefit for a military invasion, so perhaps coverage of this area is reduced. However the Thailand/Malaysia/Vietnam region is of more interest and I have a hard time believing the US had no idea a flying football field wasn't tracked.

    2) If the plane flew at 5000 ft it seems unlikely it could have made it as far as it did as the fuel consumption would have been much greater in the more dense atmosphere close to sea level.
     
  13. Vinny Bourne

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    Substitute possible for logical. They would have had to cross over land after turning about.

    If damaged they would have landed, if damaged as bad as you said earlier, they would not have been able to fly for hours. Also no sane person, would have passed over their own country or skirted very large Australia to ditch in the middle of nowhere.
     
  14. Jet-X

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    Boeing doesn't need to - the 777 has been flying for 20 years, nearly faultless. The BA 777 incident on landing, followed by the Asiana 777 is about the only blemishes on the 777 safety record. And the last one was crew fault.
     
  15. dmark1

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    A flight attendant always comes up during his absence.
     
  16. Blesset

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    A possibility is that something happened killing everyone like a fire leading to depressurization and the plane then flew on autopilot till it ran out of fuel.
     
  17. alexD

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    This makes the most sense to me given what we think we know now. It's possible that something happened, the crew turned around and tried to recover but eventually become incapacitated, and the plane flew on until running out of fuel.
     
  18. tazandjan

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    For one of you that is Boeing type rated, how long does it take to put on oxygen masks and select 100%?
     
  19. dmark1

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    Entry can be blocked internally (I know)
    At 5,000 ft the aircraft would have had 2 hrs fuel range from time of incident.
     
  20. dmark1

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    5-7 seconds tops, smoke goggles take longer ...
     
  21. tazandjan

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    Mark- About the same as fighters. Loss of vision is one thing, loss of consciousness is another. Most people can still talk when they cannot see. There should have been enough pilot oxygen onboard for the entire flight.

    Of course, look at Payne Stewart's death, and anything is possible. We have had ghost aircraft with dead aircrews since WW-I.
     
  22. nerofer

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    Searches are ongoing for today, but will probably be suspended again tomorrow, due to bad weather. The quote of the day:

    "We're not searching for a needle in a haystack," Mark Binskin, vice-chief of the Australian Defence Force, told reporters. "We're still trying to define where the haystack is."

    Rgds
     
  23. Peloton25

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  24. NürScud

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    S**t..This sucks...
     
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