Girard-Perregaux Ferrari Watch: Is it Authentic?

Nice friend you have... if that watch is real it would probably worth a few thousand dollars.

Unless he owes you money, or a big favour, its a nice gift.

If not... I would say its fake by the looks of it. Ferrari Logo is not accurate, and watch face looks suspect. Please get it appraised and let me know if I was wrong.

 

There are a lot of Ferrari GP watches I'm not familiar with, but that one looks fake to me. First the cavallino is rotated from the correct presentation. The head should be at 12 o'clock and directly above the planted rear hoof. Also I would have expected the Girard Perregaux name on the dialface.

A Ferrari calendar/day-date watch is also unusual, as the typical complication is a chronograph. The ones I've seen with a calendar, were perpetual calendar and still had the chronograph. Also, what do the two pushers do as they're not needed on a calendar/day-date watch?

The caseback engraving isn't typical as it doesn't describe the model/type of the watch; the 1791 is a reference to the year Girard Perregaux was founded and is seen on some fakes. The bracelet doesn't seem like a typical GP bracelet either.

 

fake.

 

100% fake

 

My first giveaway was-it's a chronograph with no chronograph registers??

 

sorry to say that but its a bad fake.
cheap looking case and bracelet, Chrono-look and wrong dial, wrong position of the Cavallino ....

 

Is one of the pushers for dual time?

 

The horse on the dial is very funny. Obviously the person who assembled it assumed it was shown in a galopping position and placed it accordingly!

 

looks fake

 

This was my first strong indicator that it was fake.

 

So.. to impress one or your friends, go and give it to them, but make sure they don't know about Fchat.

 

I would like to know if mine are real or fake and how much are they worth?
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The Cavallino on the face looks like a donkey.

 

I shopped extensively before I bought a GP8020 last year. I am by no means an expert, but I have become familiar with GP.

Both of your watches are highly suspicious. The watch on the left, although it is closer to GP styling, just does not appear to have the build quality of a legitimate GP. GP is particularly renown for their cases and bracelets; they are exquisite pieces of jewelry. The bracelet on the watch on the left just does not look up to GP standards. Likewise, it has a screw down back to the case, which I at least, have never seen.

The watch on the right has a case back that looks a little more like a true GP case back, but the watch face itself just does not seem to have the fine face details that GPs have and the pushers are different from what I’ve seen. The yellow strap also appears to be a cheapie aftermarket.

Of course, I may be completely wrong. A jeweler/watchmaker can inspect the movement etc. and give you a more certain answer.

GP made Ferrari-logo watches from 1994 to 2004 so only through a 10 year window and the watches didn’t evolve much during that period. If you search on “Girard Perregaux Ferrari” on the Chrono24 website, you’ll see most of the range of GP watch styles that were manufactured during that period.

 

... wait a minute! The yellow strap watch says "Japan Movt" on the back! And neither says "Swiss Made" on the face. I spent too much time writing my response above.

 

You know what’s the weirdest part? I bought both of them at Motorsport of Scottsdale in Arizona, they sold lots of original merchandise of both Ferrari and Lamborghini, it was a dealer but I just can’t believe they are fake

 

Sorry, I hope you did not pay too much.

The 8020 clone doesn’t appear to have proper subdials for a chronograph (and possibly inoperable pushers). Does it work as a Chrono? Also, I think there should be a date window.

 

I know my replicas (I have 22 of them) and those are all fake. Not really good fakes either as all three above use the Asian 21j movement. Hence the chronographs without real chronograph subdials. The 21j cannot do this so it substitutes subdials that the movement can handle, the spacing is close between them(though not perfect either) but it gives the look of the originals - until you really look at them.

 

Hi everyone. I recently purchased this watch at an auction and am wondering about its authenticity as I know there are many fakes out there.

The dials look a bit different to what I have seen, although the 7 day dial hand is missing. Perhaps they were replaced?

The back has a glass view to see the mechanism. The back plate is marked 'Manufacture Girard Perregaux La Chaux-de-fonds Avril 1994 47°14 serie spacdle Ret9042'

I just can't seem to find much info on this model?

It certainly feels high quality. If it is a fake it is still a decent feeling and looking watch. But I do have concerns about its authenticity and want to get more info on it before I go about getting a new 7 day dial hand put on.

I appreciate any advice I can get

Thanks


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I am going to go out on a limb and say it is fake.

Quality overall is not up to par for GP.

 

Thanks for the response. Is there anything specific you can point out?

 

Lots of odd things about this watch.

- Overall fit/finish/quality doesn't seem up to GP standards
- Shield on front dial doesn't look right
- Main hands are not typical of a GP, badly proportioned and excessive obscuration of the registers
- Most 3 register Ferrari watches made by GP were chronographs, not calendar watches, in keeping with the auto theme. GP made some Ferrari watches that had a calendar combined with a chronograph, but I don't recall any made as Ferrari watches that are only a calendar function.
- The engraving on the back mentions "avril 1994" (which is April 1994), which is very unusual for GP, unless it was a custom engraving denoting a commemorative date after it left GP. The "41°14" doesn't have a clear meaning to me either.
- The term "Ret9042" seems like it should be "Ref 9042", which is common watch terminology for manufacturers designating the model number. So a misspelling like that is a very bad sign. Also, Reference 9042 is not that watch, it's this one:

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https://www.lot-art.com/auction-lots/GIRARD-PERREGAUX-REF-9042-N-AXX-STAINLESS-STEEL-WRISTWATCH/433-girard_perregaux_9042_9042-07.12.22-pandolfini

Overall, I'm leaning to fake.

 

i have an original. ill find a pic.

 

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