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  1. Swobber

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    #2101 Swobber, Apr 1, 2014
    Any reason why you dont use AN banjo fittings, in anotherwise no-compromise build?
    Would finish the setup, rather than the look a like jubilee ones.

    Cheers for sharing this epic build with all of us!
     
  2. texasmr2

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    #2102 texasmr2, Apr 1, 2014
    Those are AN fittings.
     
  3. kverges

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    #2103 kverges, Apr 1, 2014
    I think Swobber is referring to post 2090 that appears to be 2 water-cooled wastegate actuators and as I see it, the water lines are AN, but the vacuum/boost line is "fake" with an AN style collar but a hose clamp doing the actual sealing. For me, if I am using a hose clamp (and they are just fine for plumbing), then I just use the clamp over the hose on the nipple. I don't see the point in the dressing of a non-functional AN style collar. And for very low pressure vacuum/boost line, AN is not necessary, so I'd just run a simple vacuum line with a Kevlar or cloth braid on it. Lighter, smaller, more flexible, and no abrasion of the jacket on adjacent parts.

    And a very nitpicky detail with which many might disagree.
     
  4. Traveller

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    #2104 Traveller, Apr 1, 2014
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    Well thanks to suggestions on this forum particularly Mrknowitall, who genuinely lives up to his name, we are looking at trying to improve the wastegate setup, so stand by as we progress.

    Meanwhile another general shot and cross bracing in situ, albeit temporarily.
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  5. Traveller

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    #2105 Traveller, Apr 2, 2014
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    This project has ballooned horribly in time and thus cost terms. Initially it was maybe four months and then as we dug deeper and kept digging, when we got to the crankshaft bearings we knew we were in a different scale of restoration completely, hence 'nut and bolt'. So we have travelled from a 4 month overhaul to probably an 18 month full restoration.

    In short it will be what it will be and that means sometime this year!
     
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    #2106 jesasinowski, Apr 2, 2014
    I, for one, greatly appreciate the opportunity to come along for the ride, virtually speaking!

    Thank you, Traveller, for continuing to share your journey with us!
     
  7. Traveller

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    #2107 Traveller, Apr 2, 2014
    You are welcome. It is actually somewhat of a symbiotic relationship as I too benefit with the knowledge on this forum, witness the latest on wastegates.
     
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    #2108 Traveller, Apr 2, 2014
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    Meanwhile, back at the workbench work, the last piece of metalwork is in manufacture, the old one being simply unfit for purpose. Any ideas?
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  9. Swobber

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    #2109 Swobber, Apr 2, 2014
    New dual flux capacitor bracket?

    Any picture of "scrapped" part?
     
  10. F40LM Addict

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    #2110 F40LM Addict, Apr 2, 2014
    Battery box
     
  11. Traveller

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    #2111 Traveller, Apr 2, 2014
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    Here it is, which also serves as a good yardstick of where we were 14 months ago and a comforting reminder of just how far we have come.
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  12. Swobber

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    #2112 Swobber, Apr 2, 2014
    Catch tank then?
     
  13. alexm

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    #2113 alexm, Apr 2, 2014
    I'm just coming to end of app development just like that! Even with best of designing ahead it has become 2-3x timeframe once you get into it you find things change and need more to do than everyone thought and said it would take!

    Defense budgets and acquisition cost estimate blowouts are even worse than software development or car restoration we can reassure ourselves with ;)

    Awesome thread to follow.. the F40 is solid gold and worth every penny and timeless. I hope you keep it for MANY years, it's in great and worthy hands!
     
  14. Traveller

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    #2115 Pixel-Snapper, Apr 3, 2014
    I can understand that, I've been doing my 'nut and bolt' for 10 years now.

    I'm pushing for July/August but I haven't even painted it yet.
     
  16. taz4432

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    #2116 taz4432, Apr 3, 2014
    Just don't specify July/August of what year and you can definitely meet your goal :)
     
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    #2119 FerrariDublin, Apr 3, 2014
    I'm not sure what was so wrong with the original but the new one is certainly real purdy! :D
     
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    #2120 PSk, Apr 3, 2014
    I know this is where the old one was, but couldn't it be positioned lower? Or would that cause issues with too much oil ending up in there?

    IMO everything that can be freely positioned should be as low as possible for improved handling, and if possible within the wheelbase.
    Pete
     
  21. Traveller

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    #2121 Traveller, Apr 3, 2014
    All sensible but every LM has them in that position (as above) and I assume for a very good reason given that many privateers raced them and clearly had there been a good reason to mount it lower, if it did not bring with it problems, surely they would have done so. Not Ferrari, Michelotto or privateers engineers, none of them moved it.

    That aside, I still wish to keep close to LM and this cars originality where possible and do not want to reinvent the wheel, and ours is actually lower than the Michelotto LMs due to running air boxes but proven to have worked in this car in this location in the past so maybe we have a good compromise.

    Overall, I think your point about too much oil ending up there is probably correct.
     
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    #2123 Davey S1, Apr 4, 2014
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    Is there a provisional date set for the first drive?

    I'm guessing this will this be a few gentle laps on a closed circuit rather than on the road?
     
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    #2124 Maxige, Apr 4, 2014
    Tim, are the airboxes painted in shiny black in original LMs?

    Painted like this look somehow out of place there...
     
  25. Traveller

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    #2125 Traveller, Apr 4, 2014
    No, as they don't run them as no need for filters but we are looking for longevity. Such as they are they are mattish, and it is something we are looking at. We inherited gloss but looking at the history they appeared Matt.
     
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