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  1. ernie

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    After cleaning up the motor mounts I inspected them. The mounting plate/heat shield lifts right off. With the plate off I had a good look at the rubber. Only a little bit of flaking, just barely separated from the rubber, but overall my motor mounts were still in great shape after 24 years of service. No major dry rot or cracking. So I will be reusing them. The bottom in just the "can" that holds the rubber, and it too is still in good shape.
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    With the frame all stripped down I took it to a local weld shop and had them take care of the two cracking welds. They also welded gussets to key areas on the subframe. This helps stiffen it up and reinforces the welds to help prevent them from stress cracking again. If you look at the corners you can see gussets welded to the subframe.

    After I got it back from the shop it got washed down. I used a rattle can of Rust-Oleum high heat black paint for BBQ grills. The headers, cats, and exhaust put out quit a bit of heat, so I needed paint that would hold up to the heat. I could have spent the money to get it media blasted, then powder coated, but I decide I'll save that for another time. Besides I think it came out ok for a Stooge paint job.
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    I put the bearing face down on a piece of 2x4, put a 42mm socket inside the hole, and gave it a good smack with the sledge to get the bearing started out. The bearing didn't come all the way out because it was bottoming out on the 2x4.
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    I needed something round, with a hole big enough that the bearing could fall through the rest of the way. Me being the Stooge that I am I used the rear brake rotor. I centered the bearing over the hole in the middle of the rotor, then tapped it all the way out.
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    I took my old bearing to a local bearing supply shop and had them match it up.

    It matched up with a Timken 9107PP bearing. But when I pulled it out of the box it was actually a Fafnir 9107PP bearing made in Japan. My guess is one company owns the other. Whatever the case the bearing matched up just fine, and is a good quality bearing.
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    After I cleaned up the belt race, I turned it over and centered the new bearing in it. I found that a 46mm socket is the right size to fit on the outer rim of the bearing race, and inside the hole of the belt race. I then tapped the new bearing in place until is was all the way in, making sure that the lip for the snap ring was clear. I sooooooooo need to buy a press.
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    On to replacing the cam belt covers.

    Here we have different length bolts that are used on the front cover.

    The reason is because of the offset of the cylinders in the block. One row of cylinders naturally sits back a bit further than the other. If you look at this top shot of the engine you can see that the right side of the block sits a little bit further back than the left side.
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    So, having said that, the three longest allen bolts are used on the 5/8 bank of cylinders/side of the engine. Or facing the front of the engine, on the right.
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    The next three longest bolts are used on the 1/4 bank side of the engine, or the left side facing the front.

    Sorry for the blurry pic.
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    Before I tighten the cam belt cover bolts down, I needed to fit the cam belt followers.

    The belt followers are to help prevent the belt from jumping a tooth due to belt belts slap. they do not need to touch the belt, only ride high enough over the belt so that if they belt starts to slap it doesn't jump off the pulley.

    I cut a strip off of a drink coaster and used that as a spacer for the belt followers. It was about 1mm of space between the belt and the shoe of the follower. Be sure to have both shoes facing the water pump when you install them.

    With the followers in place, gapped, and facing the right direction, NOW I tightened down the allen bolts, fastening to cover to the engine, and holding the belt followers in place.
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    Time for the cam covers to go back on.

    The last time I did this I just put the gasket for the spark plug holes on dry. They come with a sealer already applied to the spark plug holes. However, they ended up leaking. So this time it's getting Hondaband applied. i only applied it to the area for the spark plug holes. The rest of the gasket just sit suspended in the air. You don't have to do this, but this is how I did it.

    Also.

    I applied Hondabond to the ends of the gasket, that sit between the cam seal housings. This area of the gasket does NOT come with anything to help prevent oil leaks. So if you put your gaskets on dry be sure to put a dab of sealer where the o-ring and gasket meet. Me, i "baptized" it with Hondabond. :D I don't want this thing leaking AT ALL!
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    Then I did the same thing for the outer gaskets. After I installed the cover, I took a paper towel and wiped off the excess Hondabond.
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