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Ferrari Needs Ross Brawn !

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  1. NürScud

    NürScud F1 Veteran

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    In my opinion Flavio is a scammer. Ok, maybe he is excellent in what he does but....when i think about the crash-gate scandal.. I read some comments on FB like'' Briatore is a leader'' and bull**t like this. So far so good BUT a leader would never 'cause' a scandal like that one back in Singapore.
     
  2. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    He may be a scammer, and a bit of a rogue sometimes, but he got the job done, again and again.

    Briatore is a motivator and a smooth operator. You don't get these qualities out of university. Coming from nowhere, he brought a breath of fresh air in F1, and I still miss him.

    Briatore never had the budget or the technical team other teams enjoyed. He never complained about that and instead he beat them regularly. He was very good at obtaining a lot with very little resources. A man who knows how to chase the pennies and make the most of them.

    I don't think he would fit at Ferrari, if he ever wanted to go there.
    For a start, I can't see him putting up with LDM's arrogance...
     
  3. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Do we need Brawn, or do we need someone to figure out what the heck is wrong with the Ferrari engines?
     
  4. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Same could have been said for Massa.
     
  5. andyww

    andyww F1 Rookie

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    Thats the crux of the issue. But they need someone like Brawn to kick people into figuring out whats wrong. He is the ideal person to do it as he has an engineering background and an analytical mind.

    Its an engineering issue and requires engineering solutions.

    Not Flavio please...
     
  6. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Have you watched any F1 this season or at all over the last 5 years, or are you just jumping on the band wagon?
     
  7. Igor Ound

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    Voices: Ross might get a position at the F.I.A. next to his best mate Whiting
     
  8. tifosi12

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    There is one born every minute ;)
     
  9. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Good question.... I would have to say he hasn't. Ludicrous claim showing a total lack of understanding.

    Oh well, takes all sorts I guess.

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  10. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Yup

    Who wants to dabble in a minor league when they can win in the biggest league there is?
     
  11. Sig. Roma

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    See my post on the other thread. Fiat called the shot with SD leaving (or so RAI Sport 2 said last night).
     
  12. LightGuy

    LightGuy Four Time F1 World Champ
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    I dont think its a matter of figuring out what's wrong with Ferrari engines but figuring out what's right with the Mercedes engine.
    (I'm going to continue to call the "PU" an engine till they pry the term from my cold dead hands ;) )


    Look.. one of the suppliers had to do it better than the others.
    The fuel flow limiter IMO was supposed to be the great equaliser.
    It might have been except for Mercedes ability to use fuel more efficiently via a cooler intake temp. Add their work on ERS and you have the complete package.
    All is not lost and pointing fingers gets nothing done.
     
  13. Scuderia-Ferrari

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    At this point a miracle is what they need. May be with Mercedes engines in the cars that would be a good starting point.
     
  14. GerryD

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    Ferrari is missing someone that can get out of the car and tell the mechanics and technicians what is wrong. None of the drivers at Ferrari in the last 8 years can do this. Why do you think the Mercs are so good now?
     
  15. andyww

    andyww F1 Rookie

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    A driver would not be able to tell them why the Merc engine is much more powerful and efficient.

    The problem is, the people at Merc HPP thought outside of the box and the Ferrari and Renault designers didnt. They came up with the devolved turbine/compressor.

    Ferrari are wedded to a number of suppliers, some of which have their names on the side of the car. So for example Ferrari will automatically go to Magnetti Marrelli for an MGU-K or other electrical part as they are a team partner.

    Merc will either design themselves or get something designed by the best supplier available. Having 400 people in Brixworth and the resources they have means they dont need to rely on whatever a supplier gives them.
     
  16. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I don't think the Mercs are so good primarily of because of drivers feedback. It's gotta be more than that.

    Mercs are good because of their design, etc. Michael Schumacher race in a Merc too, and arguably he's the best when it comes to providing feedback. So there you go...
     
  17. F SPIDER

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    Waste deep fishing will only get you bottom feeders;)
     
  18. barndoor

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    New Update

    Ross Brawn Back To Ferrari !

    ok,its still a rumor....

    Lets Hope !
     

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