Alonso in McLaren??

I am not sure, but have heard that a manufacturer could only have more than 2 cars if the number of teams drops to 9 or below.

 

What happens if Rosberg wins the WDC ?

 

He goes to prison after it's revealed he bumped off Hamilton to make that possible.


Mark

 

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McLaren at this point, is behind Ferrari. So why would Alonso go there? Santander makes that decision, and I doubt they want to leave Ferrari and return to McLaren. Marketing benefit is more important.

And would Alonso want to be #2 at Red Bull, and that is not behind Vettel? Would Alonso swallow his Latin pride and be teammates with Hamilton, again?

Naw. He will stay at Ferrari at least through 2015.

 

It's about him going to Mercedes, no other teams.

 

why do you say this?

McLaren know how to make a chassis, Honda only have to make an engine and Mercedes made one from scratch that works well ... Honda are in exactly the same position as everybody else but they have one advantage, they have a whole year to develop without the pressure of racing.

McLaren Honda should be good straight away IF McLaren can get their part right.

Obviously Mercedes is Alonso's first choice but I'd put McLaren ahead of Ferrari because of Honda.
Pete
ps: back in the days of the Ferrari v12 to v10 switch it was reported that there were packaging advantages. Smaller radiators was one of those packaging advantages. Often it is more than just engine that makes the difference. The v12 was restricting the Ferraris overall package. Note Toyota didn't go v12 in the end.

 

Even if Alonso goes to Mercedes, I can't see why any of the other switches should happen...?

 

Toyota came into F1 when V10 was the only permitted engine.

If Alonso goes to Mercedes, Rosberg has to go somewhere. There'll be a spot at Ferrari, but I believe Vettel will jump at that one. Pretty boy will then take Vettel's position at Red Bull.

Vettel could convince Newey (and Horner?) to come to Ferrari.

It's just hypothetical but I can easily see it happen (the drivers especially).

 

Alonso back at McLaren?

I hope not.

 

I've heard solidly that Newey won't go to Ferrari under any circumstance, period.

Vettel going there just might be possible but I just cant see it, the end of 2014 seeing what drivers are going where will certainly be interesting to watch.

Objectively speaking based on driver performance, Mercedes have no reason to consider any other drivers other than perhaps because Fred brings more $$$, but even then Merc aren't so much concerned about that. If Merc were to go after anyone, it would be Vettel as he has many years left in him (unlike Fred), and Vettel is another famous German which the German national team should certainly have, but I still don't see him beating Lewis and I'm sure he knows good and well that if he were with Merc he would have a heck of hill to climb in trying to beat Lewis as he certainly has his hands already full with Ricci. If anything, this may be why Rosberg leaves as he will want a teammate which he can always have a couple tenths on, and Ferrari may be just the place..... This all being hypothetical of course though, Merc have no reason to blow Vettel $$$ with their current excellent line-up unless Vettel is essentially begging for a Merc ride, which I'm sure anyone would be.

 

McLaren knows how to make a chassis? Really? Ferrari knows how to make a chassis too. But right now they´re not making it. And it´s not me who is saying it, it´s the stopwatch. The McLaren chassis is so... putrid that even with the big advantage of Mercedes power they´re behind the Ferrari, and even the Williams and the Force India. Eventually they´ll be there again, but they have been erratic for the past 3 years and will need some time to recover. A young gun like Hulkenberg, or even Vettel, would be willing to wait. But would be Alonso?

Respect the Honda engines, I don´t know why you´re so confident about them. Their last F1 engines sucked most of the time, so their most recent record is not very good. And what you call "developing without the pressure of racing" actually is "one year less of experience". Of course this can be solved with enough money and I´m sure that Honda has it, but even if everything goes super-smooth they´ll need, again, some time to get it going.

Toyota didn´t go V12 because they had no choice: V10s were mandatory then.

Maybe it´s just that v10s were a good idea in the 90s but not so much in 2000. In 10 years they could had learn a lot about making engines. In the aborted BMW P85 project for the 2005 season, the thickness of the wall between cylinders was just 4 mm. They had to abandon that design later as then FIA started to introduce those rules of only one engine for x races.

 

McLaren know how to make a chassis? Yes, Ferrari too, but for some reason they´re not making it. The McLaren chassis is so putrid that even with the big advantage of Mercedes power they´re behind Ferrari, and even Williams and Force India.

And about Honda, "developing without the pressure of racing" actually means "one year less of experience".

Yes, eventually they´ll be there, and a young gun like Magnussen, Hulkenberg, or even Vettel can afford a two or three years wait, but can Alonso, knowing that it would be his last contract in F1?

Toyota didn´t go V12 because, as I´ve said, they had no choice: FIA changed the rules and V10 became mandatory.

Maybe it´s just that V10s were a good idea in the 90s but not so much in 2000. They had a lot of time to learn things about making engines. The aborted BMW P85 for the 2005 season had a wall thickness between cylinders of just 4 mm. They had to abandon that project because it was then when FIA started to introduce those rules of one engine for x races.

 

Not sure why there are so many seeing Vettel jump in a Ferrari. What is it about Ferrari's recent form that would give him anything he can't get at Red Bull? I'm no Alonso fan, but if he can't get a Ferrari to deliver a championship, frankly I don't see anyone else making it happen either.

Not sure why Mercedes would make room for Fred when their two current drivers seem to be doing quite well. We'll all see I guess......

 

+1

Vettel to Ferrari only happens in a "dream team" kind of deal, IMHO.

 

Some drivers end up at Ferrari towards the end of their career because the Scuderia is reputed to pay its drivers above the going rate.

It's a very nice way to conclude what has been a successful career elsewhere...

 

Perhaps. Can't imagine it's about money at that point though.

 

Ouch.

 

Well then....

 

So, you're saying there's a chance. (Dumb and Dumber)

 

More and more rumors out of Europe on Newey going to Ferrari today.

 

Screw these drivers that want to jump ship. They should build the team around them plain and simple.

 

There is a God.