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Key Fob/ECU pairing video - what am I doing wrong?

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  1. ketel

    ketel Formula 3

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    Here is it gang. Video evidence that somewhere along the way I am either doing it wrong or my ECU/key fobs are not getting along.

    Trouble pairing key fobs to Ferrari 355 - YouTube

    Sorry for the shoddy camera work as I did it from my iPhone while holding it and performing the key click sequences involved.

    Suggestions/advice?
     
  2. Dave rocks

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    #2 Dave rocks, May 13, 2014
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    Ketel, thanks for posting that video, I'm entering my PIN exactly the same and only got it to take one time.

    See the attached photo from Terry's document.

    It seems you are skipping step 10
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  3. Eric C

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    Did you ever get the car to start with just the pin?
     
  4. Dave rocks

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    Who are you asking Eric? I got mine to do so one time and can't repeat. I believe Ketel has been starting his car this way for months...
     
  5. SoCal1

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    Maybe have someone read it off to you as you do it? May help timing
     
  6. F129b

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    Reminds me of trying to pair my garage door opener with home link in my 535. Must've done it 15 times w/o success..then the 16th time, presto.

    Go figger


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  7. Eric C

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    I was asking Ketel. I wasn't sure if he was jumping straight into the FOB programming without getting the PIN to work.
     
  8. ketel

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    Yes, I'm doing step 10, although not very well in the video. I've since done it a few more times being sure to do step thoroughly.

    After you keep the key on ON in step 10 the LED does go OFF but when you get through the next 10 key cycles per the instructions, the flashing never starts up. It stays solid ON when the key is on, and solid OFF when the key is off.
     
  9. ketel

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    Yes, been starting the car that way since February. :(
     
  10. ketel

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    Tried that with Mitchell (yelcab.) It's hard to stump him and, well, he was pretty stumped too.
     
  11. SoCal1

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    Ketel, do you have a new red fob, master or whatever Ferrari is calling it today?


    EDIT Oh DUH you cant get the light to flash
     
  12. yelcab

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    Ketel, The very bottom of that document said "reports have been made that the number of on-off cycles varies from 12-20 or more before the LED started flashing"

    You only tried 10. Try 15 times, and 20 times and see if the LED starts flashing quickly to indicate that it is ready to learn.
     
  13. Dave rocks

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    It's all just bizarre. I got my PIN to work one time and one time only. It's driving me crazy...
     
  14. SoCal1

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    Maybe some dirty connections somewhere. Just about every plug I seen on these cars has crud on it even inside.
     
  15. ketel

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    Yes, I saw that as well and I went as high as 30 key cycles on a couple occasions. No luck. No flashing. if I leave the key in ON position the LED just stays solid on. Never goes out and never flashes.
     
  16. ketel

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    Yes, I have one red master and two black slaves. Came from Ferrari dealer directly. 700 clams.
     
  17. cuneo

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    Good luck Ketel, you'll get there.
     
  18. Dave rocks

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    That's what I was thinking.... But, like Ketel, if my pin is entered via my FOB (Ketel via key clicks), the LED will give feedback per each click. On when in position 2, off when in position 0. That tells me the system is seeing the clicks since I assume the LED is coming from the immobilizer and not the ignition.
     
  19. yelcab

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    So the next question is ... has anyone successfully programmed his new key fobs following these instructions ?
     
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    I have a new FOB set and PIN from the dealer. I still haven't been able to get the ecu to accept my PIN.
     
  21. Dave rocks

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    Eric, I hope you mean old PIN, not the new one that came with the FOB's
     
  22. SoCal1

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    Seriously, I have not seen a car where the connections are such an issue. Not only connections exposed to elements either. It's almost like they designed that way.

    Think old Jaguar lucas system. LOL

    Step 1- First thing I do now is clean connections thoroughly-verify
    Step 2- Proceed to normal diagnostics per workshop Manuel
     
  23. Eric C

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    Correct, the old PIN was ordered.
     
  24. Dave rocks

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    I'll give it a go Tim, however, you cannot access the immobilizer connections without drilling the rivets out of the cage.
     
  25. SoCal1

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    Yeah I know how you feel about that, see if you can find OEM style rivets before you do it
    I have a crap load of different rivets from over the years I could look at.

    The ECU connections also. I took a picture of an ECU posted it somewhere in here and you can see the terminals looked like Marvin the Martin pooped on them. Car had a few thousand miles and was kept indoors temp controlled
     

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