I was reading up on this car while I was listing some stuff at the website and found that apparently it disappeared in the 1990's... Is that true? How can such an important and expensive car disappear in such recent history?
Jack Hollywood actor Peter Helm sold 0380 AM in 1967 to Roger L. Wheeler of Huntington Beach/CA. That's when and where the car disappeared. Engine 0380 AM only was sold in 1969 by Harvey Schaub of Los Angeles to Edwin K. Niles in Encino/CA who then re-sold it to Chuck Weiss in Chicago/IL. In 2003 Roger Wheeler said that chassis 0380 AM no longer exists and was destroyed. Marcel Massini
I took these pictures a couple of years ago. Sorry, no SN#. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I also took these the same day. Wayne told me what it was but I forgot. Sorry, no SN#. I took these before I knew SN# collecting was important. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Wow you are quick. Do you know all this off the top of your head? Does being a rebody matter that much? Are not most race cars from that era damaged repaired or rebodied?
wow. 2.25 million? I hope it ends up on the road or on a track somewhere. I think it's stunning looking car. I have more of them and also in hi-res if you want them. I didn't feel like resizing them all
250 GT Boano chassis #0685 GT of Graeme Revell/Tony Schwartz. The ONLY important thing in life is numbers, be it chassis numbers or US $$$$$ !! Stay tuned. Marcel Massini
Thanks, very kind, but NOT now, please. My own collection includes about 75.000 Ferrari photographs already. Marcel Massini
LOL! I don't even have 75 pic's of my kids let alone 75,000. Thanks again for sharing Marcel. It's nice to have info to go with the pictures. Take care
talk about a bath. Where can you even get parts of cars like these? I follow Jim's threads and I can't imagine his long distance phone bill trying to track down this or that little spring or obscure parts for his cars.
Well, I don't own that kind of cars but even for my mere mortal classics it often a matter of people "allowing you to buy" the parts. Money is only a secundairy issue then. Sometimes no money in the world can buy you the needed part and other times you get an engine for free...
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Mr Massini - above, we have that the chassis, less its engine, "no longer exists and was destroyed"...... Can you speculate why that would be? Even in the time betw. 1967 - 2003, these cars were generally not without some value.... Is it more likely that the chassis was 'donated' to build some other car? Even without its proper engine, seems as though it would have been a fine starting point for a 'barn find' car? I suppose this means that no one else 'owns' a car numbered 0380? Just curious..... TIA, James BTW: is it known what chassis carries engine no 0380?
In 1967 such a car had almost no value at all. No, the chassis wasn't "donated" to build some other car. As said before, the engine 0380 AM went to Chuck Weiss. He owns 0364 AM since many many years and installed engine 0380 AM in chassis 0364 AM. See also color article in Cavallino magazine etc. Marcel Massini
I am trying to learn as much as possible regarding 0380 AM. I appreciate the information provided here. Can you please point me to the appropriate issue of Cavallino magazine in which this car is referred? Also, do you have any other information on the manufacture of history of this car that you are willing to share. Thank you very much.
I have tried repeatedly through the years to get an answer from Roger Wheeler about what happened to the car, etc., without success. I even tried to get a mutual friend (a fellow airline pilot of Roger's) to intervene. He seems to be unwilling to respond. Even when the car was alive, with Chevy engine, he failed to answer my attempts to reach out. Don't know what else to do.
Forgive me for my wild, speculative imagination but these "no longer exists" and non-responses to gentlemanly enquiries sure sound like someone who wants to be left alone, not the former owner of a car that has gone away. The only thing more mysterious than a loner is the secret he keeps. Perhaps it's far-fetched, but this man could well have one.
Anyone know what Anamera is referencing when they claim Wheeler's ownership as late as 1996? Certainly by then, if the car still existed, its monetary value would have been understood. Maybe we could get Ocean Joe to sniff it out? Apparently he can't get enough of these cars. >8^) ER PS: Strange seeing posts from Matteo.
1/12/2006 Marcel Massini says Wheeler states 0380AM no longer exists and is deatroyed.10/15 2008 M.M. states 0380 in North America.Let's see what comes next. tongascrew
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