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F355 Spider v. 458 Spider

Discussion in '348/355' started by Challenge, May 23, 2014.

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  1. Challenge

    Challenge Formula 3

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    There have been quite a few recent threads comparing the 355 to other Ferrari models. I was fortunate enough last week to find myself with some fellow FChat buddies in Maranello. I also rented a 458 Spider, so I wanted to share my subjective comparisons for those who are interested or simply lust over the 458 Spider but may never own one...at least anytime soon.

    These are only my opinions, so take this for what it is worth.

    Exterior Styling
    Aesthetically, the 458 resonates with me because it returns to the basic wedge shape that was popular in the 90's. In this respect I see the 458 as a modernized 355. The overall side profile of the car (with top down) reminds me of the 355GTS. Both cars are low, wide and striking. Both have a perfect balance of hard edges and graceful curves.
    355 = 10/10
    458 = 10/10

    Interior Styling
    Here the 458's quality of craftsmanship really shows over the older brother, but that's not what I'm measuring here. The 458's asymmetric dashboard with its wild vents is a bit too space-age for me. The 355's interior certainly won't be confused with any 2014 model year car, but it is classic and visually pleasing. 110% Ferrari.
    355 = 9/10
    458 = 8/10

    Comfort
    I thought the 355 Spider had comfortable and supportive seats. Until I slipped in the 458's racing seats. These seats wrap around you much like a burrito's tortilla wraps around chicken and rice. Had I not been so amped to experience the new spider, I swear I could have taken a nap. Naturally, since nearly all the controls are steering wheel-centric, there is no need for leaning to access any controls. The 355 Spider's lack of top-down wind buffeting is taken to a different level in the new V8. With the windows up and the top down, the 458 almost doesn't provide enough airflow! The 458 is many generations ahead of the 355's suspension and isolates small bumps and dips where the 355 produces mild, but jarring, racecar harshness.
    355 = 8/10
    458 = 10/10

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  2. Challenge

    Challenge Formula 3

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    Handling
    Obviously I was not in a position to ring out the 458 Spider--someone else's car--on unfamiliar country roads in a foreign country. But I pushed her enough to appreciate the immediacy of the car's response to steering inputs. If the 355 is a sharp hunting knife, the 458 is a surgical laser. The 458 is simply magnificent in its ability to obey your commands and point where you want it; road conditions seemed to be irrelevant. This is not to say the 355 doesn't deliver an Alonso-esque level of confidence to its driver. Just not as much or as smoothly as the 458. This is weird to say, but the 458 is almost too smooth.
    If you've ever been in a purpose-built racecar, you know it is violent. Some of that rawness and edginess should be retained in a street car (like either of these F-cars) to remind the driver of its serious roots. If the 458 possesses this, I suspect you need to be on a road course to feel it.
    355 = 9/10
    458 = 10/10

    Power
    This one is easy. The 458's sheer amount of power and its ability to instantaneously turn throttle input into a jail sentence is indisputable. The 355 obviously can't compete with the larger V8's low-end torque or high-end horses.
    355 = 7/10
    458 = 10/10

    Transmission
    This section may sting a bit if you own a 458 or are under 25 years old: the 458's F1 tranny is so fast, so smooth and so easy to use that it has lost quite a bit of the engagement that is needed to properly command a 6-speed manual like the F355. The transmission is no longer a system that must be mastered in conjunction with others to maximize the car's performance. It is no more difficult that playing a video game; anyone can pull paddles (but I will admit the LED's on the top of the steering wheel are cool). The satisfaction of the click-clack when shifting the gears, the use of your left foot and the thrill/risk that you really can damage the car if you get something wrong add are all lacking in the 458.
    355 = 9/10
    458 = 8/10

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  3. Challenge

    Challenge Formula 3

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    Sound
    This is the biggest disappointment to me in driving the 458 Spider. As the smoothness and refinement have taken this model to a new level of everyday drivability, so too has the exhaust note been smoothed and refined. Sure, it has bypass valves that open and wail. It sounds good. But it is too quiet if the valves are closed and even when they open, the shriek lacks the raspy rawness the 355's 5-valve engine puts out. Perhaps it is not fair since my F355 sports Hyperflow cats and Tubi exhaust, yet my 458 rental appeared to be bone stock.
    355 = 10/10
    458 = 8/10

    Overall Experience
    This category is not a calculation based on my other categories. This ain't Car and Driver and I didn't even do the math. :) The Italian way of life, as seen in these cars, is driven by passion so that is how I am comparing these two fine machines. One is a throwback to days that will never return: gated shifters and pop-up headlights. Raw, edgy and quirky. The other represents the intersection of technological evolution and market forces. Electronically-controlled, smooth and easy. Today's consumers want easy, convenient gizmos. The easier and less effort is required to perform any given action, the better. I feel sure this makes life in 2014 more appealing when considering the purchase of a washing machine or cell phone, but part of Ferrari's mystique is the thrill produced by the level of effort required to drive one. I can certainly say that nearly anyone with a valid driver's license can drive a 458.

    If you want a track day monster that can also double as a gorgeous, street legal headturner, the 458 is the machine to get. If you want a timelessly beautiful, raw, unique-sounding Ferrari built as the handmade era was coming to an end, go with the 355.

    Which do I prefer? I really like both, but would not want a 458 without keeping the 355. Slight advantage goes to..........the 355!
     
  4. tclark

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    AND THEN......
     
  5. Dave rocks

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    Fantastic review Kevin- very well written and I could actually feel the cars like I was the one driving - very nice.

    I must agree though, I love the 458 but as you said, I would keep my 355 too.

    Pardon the hijack, but I'm less than one week into my 2008 Maserati GT and while they are very different cars (and design purpose), The MGT has many characteristics to how you describe the 458. I don't mean to compare the 2 (no comparision). But the MGT is a very smooth GT car yet it still has the nice sports car feel with nice sound and still has some punch.
     
  6. SoCal1

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    Thanks for the thoughts, about same conclusion I found

    I too am bitten by the 458 bug. Besides new "Mo Betta Meaty Meat Burger" I really enjoy the "open" driving experience of the 355 spider.
    We almost shelved the 458 idea for a Dino, hard decisions for sure.

    Thanks for putting the thought back in my mind fresh :)
     
  7. KMR968Turbo

    KMR968Turbo Formula 3

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    Not spiders but for sound the 355 rocks the 458

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhg2SzmCdi4&feature=youtube_gdata_player]Bil-TV: Ferrari 355 Berlinetta vs. 458 Italia - YouTube[/ame]
     
  8. cuneo

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    Great write-up Challenge!!

    I was driving in my F355 B with HyperFlows and Cap 3 next to a stranger in his 458 Spider, just tooling along in city traffic. My car was infinitely louder than his, actually I couldn't hear his car. Not to mention the dude looked really mad, even though his car still wasn't even tagged yet...
    I, however, was happy as could be in my little 355.
     
  9. Markphd

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    Yes, fantastic write up... I differ slightly on two major points.

    First styling, I love the 355, but let's be honest from the outside, the 458 is in another league. I agree, you can look at both and say, "It's gorgeous". But side by side, the 355 is a 9/10, and the 458 is a 9.5/10. Something will come along and best it eventually.

    Second, transmission, the Ferrari 355 transmission is more of a 8/10 and the paddle shifting holds zero appeal to me, leaving it with a 5/10 (best I would give any paddle shifter). It's an amazing transmission, and if you are racing it is superior to a manual box, but I am not racing I am looking for an experience that satisfies my senses. Flappy paddles and no third pedal leave my senses unimpressed.

    I think your final comments sum it up perfectly: "The Italian way of life, as seen in these cars, is driven by passion so that is how I am comparing these two fine machines. One is a throwback to days that will never return: gated shifters and pop-up headlights. Raw, edgy and quirky. The other represents the intersection of technological evolution and market forces. Electronically-controlled, smooth and easy." I also would pick the F355 if I could have only one and was not engaged in actively racing it against other cars similar to the 458.

    Nicely done!
     
  10. Richard Browne

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    Great write-up and very pertinent for me....
    I have been looking into buying a 355 GTS for many years but just could not stomach the maintenance costs, believe me I have researched this to death! I have now just finalised on a 2015 458 Spider having sold an immaculate 993 S to facilitate the main spend.

    So, I am an exact example of a customer balancing between the two camps having finalised my decision based on both heart and mind (practicality). The 458 is circa 60k more than I would pay for a great 355GTS but, and it is a big but....the 458 has a 2 year dealer warranty, 2 years remaining of free servicing and is more robust. I balanced my decision on the fact that the circa 60k difference would be eaten up in 355 maintenance bills during my time of ownership with the 458 being less stressful to start following a 6month UK winter storage due to concerns of a bill before getting the car back on the road for summer.

    Having said the bove and about to take ownership of the 458, the 355 is in my opinion the best looking mid-engined Ferrari ever made.
     

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