LaFerrari Review Thread

Thanks for the explanation. So if you're at full throttle, IPAS doesn't work?

Btw, you can't define a set parameter for when and where you "only" need maximum power. It varies. Therefore, I'm still puzzled by the useful and neccessary function of IPAS. It still appears to me to as a redudant novelty.

 

Mark, absolutely not.
I suppose this is your opinion, and it doesn’t came from any Mclaren’s engineers involved in the P1 project.
The advantage of having an instantaneous 163hp over-boost at any rpm range is one of the key to be faster on track.
Road legal supercars (with top speed of 350 Km/h/ 217 mph) have gear ratios that could not suite same turns or track’s segment (too low or too high rpm) with the result to be not so effective as they could be.
The HY-KERS always-in avoid any lack of torque in any bend working together with e-diff to distribute torque between rear axle wheels (and again to battery if engine torques came in excess )
About one year ago, a Ferrari engineer tell me that, despite the bespoke continuous variable length inlet ducts system, the contribution of electric unit is so effective that they preferred to raise up torque max rpm and to concentrate on engine final power output.
Cheers

Luque

 

Not taking sides here, but it works and it works well so how is that a gimmick? It's like igniting the afterburners...now how cool is that?! Anybody who says that McLaren doesn't know how to do emotion must have their head stuck in the sand.
Furthermore, you also have the option of flattening the accelerator for instant warp speed...INSTANT...no lag!
Come to think of it, those stalks for turning are a gag too, I always just use my hands and arms for signaling left or right, it does the job just perfectly and I've never had an accident in 30 years of driving. And yes, I use a glow sleeve between dusk and dawn. Stupid gimmicky stalks, they just get in the way.

 

No question it works. But why the need for a button when you can do it all with the accelerator?

 

Don't be a boring ol' flatus (look it up)!

Ever fly a real jet?

If not, ask a real pilot what it's like to push a button...

 

Yeap, that's the idea. Hahahahah!!!

 

What? Next you'll tell me you have to raise the chassis instead of lowering it to achieve top speed

 

maybe some of these posts would be better in another thread...

 

agree. but it was bound to happen.

 

Here you go Mark.

I never thought laferrari will come with no e-mode setup.

950hp all day long i really like how ferrari approached the hybrid world.

Two different beatiful cars two different ideas +1.
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iPAS is a way to manually control the e-motor. Just like DRS is a way to manually control the wing. I don't understand why ppl complain about the computers doing all the work, how cars have become too electronic, long live the days of the 3-pedals etc etc, only to bash the mechanisms that put the control back into the driver?

The LaFerrari does not have these buttons. the computer decides when to retract the wing and when to use the e-motor. P1 does this as well but also has buttons to allow the driver to control it. THATS A GOOD THING if you want to challenge yourself and if not DON'T.

Honestly I would have expected these buttons from Ferrari since they are standard equipment in F1.

 

If one is merely cruising around in a P1, is it better to just leave the boost button on in order to stop battery discharge/charge cycling and thereby increase battery longevity?

 

If you're just cruising around then leave boost off and let the computers take care of everything for you. ipas is not for cruising.

 

Ferrari vs Ferrari vs Ferrari: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEiMuoa5cE4

 

In F1, the DRS button is there as an artificial way of increasing spectacle. The most efficient way would be for the computers to decide when to change the aerodynamic profile. Also, ERS is automatically deployed in F1. Limiting the power, so as to be able to increase it again via a button, makes no sense and is by no means the quicker way around a circuit. Also, it increases the driver's workload for no apparent reason other than the childish pleasure of increasing power via a button, rather than the throttle pedal.

 

+1.

 

+1

Excellent post.

I wonder how the fanboy crowd will argue against this.

 

Shouldn't the second round of laferrari reviews including chris harris's review be out today? May 26th was the second embargo date

 

Yup. If he made a video. His review was on the R&T website the same time as the others.

 

Cars, especially hypercars, are all about satisfying our "childish" inner pleasures, right? So why is everybody here so critical about McLaren making it fun to feel like you're getting shot out of cannon when you're already going at crazy speeds, and as a choice at that! I'm also on the waiting list to get a P1, I should've gone for it when I was debating it in my mind, but if I was in the same spot today, I wouldn't doubt signing up for one. I'm sure my LF will give me lots of satisfaction but for once I think McLaren has out-emotioned Ferrari. So what if the P1 doesn't need to have that button, I'm paying good money for fun and I would rather have a choice how to feel ecstacy. Button for fun, pedal for business, McLaren has delivered both, can't knock that.

 

How is pressing the button any different to levelling the throttle pedal? They do the same thing at the end of the day.

Also, noone wrote anything about the LaFerrari being less dramatic. If anything, all reviewers raved about the emotional shock it delivers. CAR said that it makes the P1 feel ordinary...

 

Robert is true, using the finger is more better. This avoids picking your nose while accelerating.

 

So does a gear lever and a paddle shift, a window winder and a button, a rear view mirror and a camera, an air vent and an open window, a key and a start button. Your point is?
Come down off your high horse and try to see it as it is...real men like to touch things. And if CAR said the LF makes the P1 feel ordinary, I bet they think Michael Jackson was also Janet Jackson. C'mon, do you REALLY believe them? If you do, I've gotta hot salt lake in Antartica at a good price to sell ya. Interested?

 

Who gives a rats ass about the most efficient way is to let the computers decide? Why not just drive a simulator, take a nap and look up the results on your phone to see how fast you were?

The button is there so you can outsmart the computer. Sounds like you don't have that ability so you simply need to do nothing.

And the power isn't limited. Its merely decoupled from your right foot and transferred to your finger. Then your foot controls the petrol engine and your finger controls the e-motor. Its not that hard to figure out.

Computers dont know you are saving your battery for a particular sector. Thats where your brain comes into play. Just like in f1, the drivers aren't holding the kers button down the entire time. They know when are where on the track to use it.