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  1. Markphd

    Markphd Formula Junior

    Mar 10, 2012
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    I guess I fall into this category, I really don't care about the resale value, I bought the car to drive and when the wheels fall off, maybe I will put some spinners on it. ;)

    So things that I might consider doing:

    1. Quick disconnect harnesses for everything that needs to come out for the major maintenance. This I do intend to do, as I hate fishing wires through the firewall. I would rather just unplug a few connectors in the engine bay and be done with it.

    2. Potentially go to a stand alone engine management system, get rid of the immobilizer, and put a pair of turbochargers on it. True sacrilege and perversion of the car... I have no desire to do so now... but I would not put it past me.

    3. Use the clutch cover as the basis of a supercharger mount and drive a centrifugal supercharger off the voith damper assembly. :) LMAO. That would be priceless.

    With more time, I can come up with additional bad ideas.

    Mark
     
  2. amattox1

    amattox1 Rookie

    Nov 30, 2013
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    Buy a 3x8 Ferrari.
     
  3. PAUL500

    PAUL500 F1 Rookie

    Jun 23, 2013
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    Do what my friend Martyn has done, buy a nice high mileage example with a huge sheaf of bills for work someone else paid for, and take it out and use it without any worries what so ever.

    Bump it? get it fixed, scratch it? get it painted, put loads more miles on it? so what as its done loads already.

    Get bored with it in a few years? sell it for more than you paid for it, or get your spanners out and make a healthy profit from the parts that simply get harder and harder to find year on year.

    No brainer in my mind, oh and I get to have a go in it whenever I like which is the added bonus :)
     
  4. Dino Chang

    Dino Chang Guest

    Dec 29, 2012
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    In theory the first part of what you say could work. However this bit highlighted above,. I cant think of any part on the 355 s or 348 that is so hard to find at the moment or for the next 5 years at least that will make a profit.
    Parting out a 355 would take years to make a profit if at all, unless its gararged for another 20 years and then part it out. NOT keeping a 355 or 348 stored until parts are rare, is definitely a no brainer to me.
     
  5. PAUL500

    PAUL500 F1 Rookie

    Jun 23, 2013
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    Virtually everything has been replaced on the car, as it was a track experience 355 in a past life, so its mechanically as new again, but he paid half the price for it of a car whose original components have covered the same mileage as his new replacment ones.

    He could part it out and only sell the major components and get his original stake money back, everything else would then be gravy.
     
  6. treedee3d

    treedee3d F1 Rookie

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    Playboy logo mudflaps
     
  7. XLR8R

    XLR8R Karting

    Feb 14, 2013
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    ...use my 355 as a donor car to make a fake Fiero. Then I could say that nope it's not real; it's just a kit car.
     
  8. bobzdar

    bobzdar F1 Veteran

    Sep 22, 2008
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    ...do nothing differently.

    Now if the sentence to be completed were: "If I didn't have to worry about repair/maintenance costs, I would...." the answer might change a little.
     
  9. F355Bob

    F355Bob Formula 3

    #34 F355Bob, May 27, 2014
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  10. amattox1

    amattox1 Rookie

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    LMAO
     
  11. ar_es

    ar_es Formula 3

    Jun 6, 2013
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    F355 Scuderia? :D


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  12. vvassallo

    vvassallo F1 Veteran

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    So true!
     
  13. KMR968Turbo

    KMR968Turbo Formula 3

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  14. ClydeM

    ClydeM F1 World Champ
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    Nov 4, 2003
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    I don't care about resale.
    15K in two years.
    Man, at 8Krpm, that engine note is sweet.
     
  15. taz355

    taz355 F1 Veteran
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    Feb 18, 2008
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    Do exactly what I am doing and keep it forever. Maybe change the licence plate to "not4sale"
     
  16. Triple Black

    Triple Black Karting

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    I would drive a Porsche to shop at Walmart!
     
  17. 97 Spider

    97 Spider Formula 3

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    Hey now, I took my 355 to Walmart yesterday.
     
  18. dontknownuttin

    dontknownuttin Karting

    Mar 21, 2014
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    I don't care about resale value. I plan to enjoy the hell out of it guilt-free, and do anything that pleases me with/to it.

    I took my 348 to Menards to pick up a few things the first day I got it.
     
  19. ar_es

    ar_es Formula 3

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    Miles or km? :)



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  20. Markphd

    Markphd Formula Junior

    Mar 10, 2012
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    I love how that looks, how did you cover the factory exhaust openings?
     
  21. F355Bob

    F355Bob Formula 3

    Body shop molded in panels where the original exhaust was.
     
  22. pnicholasen

    pnicholasen Formula 3

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    #47 pnicholasen, Jun 15, 2014
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    If I didn't care about resale value and wanted to be the laughing stock at the Concours, I would consider adding another air dam inlet to make the nose more symmetric, and perhaps get rid of the pop-up headlights. Well, at that point, might as well de-strake the sides and rear, maybe change to round tail lights. Of course one could be truly tasteless and put a tacky spoiler on the back in hopes it would harken back to the GTO kind of look. Hells bells, why not paint the wheels gold like the old race cars??? Maybe go way over the top with a homemade rice-rocket style front splitter?? Throw some cheapo shields on the fenders and stand back and wonder at the horror of it all
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  23. Markphd

    Markphd Formula Junior

    Mar 10, 2012
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    I obviously don't care about re-sale value: Project Quick Disconnect has started.

    So the first thing to do is to make the wiring harness disconnect quickly at the firewall. To that end, I have ordered a few Delphi Metri-Pak male/female connectors and junctions. Each one is capable of 30 terminal connections.

    So connector 1 will have the following:

    Ignition Outputs:
    Row 2 51 Pink Black Coil Bank 1, 1-4, Pin 1
    Row 2 49 Purple White Coil Bank 1, 1-4, Pin 3
    Row 2 52 Purple Black Coil Bank 2, 5-8, Pin 1
    Row 2 50 Green Coil Bank 2, 5-8, Pin 3

    Fuel Outputs:
    Row 1 3 Black White Injector Cylinder 1
    Row 1 7 Blue White Injector Cylinder 2
    Row 1 4 Yellow Red Injector Cylinder 3
    Row 1 5 Yellow Injector Cylinder 4
    Row 2 31 White Injector Cylinder 5
    Row 2 35 Green Blue Injector Cylinder 6
    Row 2 32 Blue Black Injector Cylinder 7
    Row 2 33 Yellow Green Injector Cylinder 8

    Idle Air Control:
    Row 1 2 White Green Idle Valve Pin 1
    Row 2 29 Blue White Idle Valve Pin 3

    Ancillary Functions:
    Row 3 64 Yellow Blue By-Pass Valve Flap
    Row 3 63 Yellow Green Fuel Pump Relay Pin 85
    Row 3 57 Blue Green Secondary airpump Relay Pin 85
    Row 3 62 Red Blue Cooling Fan Relay Pin 85
    Row 3 69 Orange White AC Turned On
    Row 3 68 Green Black Air Pump
    Row 3 61 Grey Green Tank Vent
    Row 1 1 White Brown O2 Sensors, Post Cat, Heater
    Row 2 30 Brown O2 Sensors, Pre-Cat, Heater


    Connector 2 will have:

    Engine Timing:
    Row 3 78 Purple Black Crank Position Sensor pin 1
    Row 1 20 Purple Crank Position Sensor pin 2
    Row 1 21 Pink Cam Phase Sensor Pin 2

    Timing Adjustment:
    Row 3 70 Yellow Black Knock Sensor 1, Pin 1
    Row 2 40 Yellow Knock Sensor 2, Pin 1

    Primary Fuel Inputs:
    Row 1 17 Red Black MAF Pin 2
    Row 2 45 Red White MAF pin 4
    Row 2 53 Red Blue Throttle Position Pin 2
    Row 2 44 Grey White Throttle Position Pin 3

    Closed Loop Fuel Inputs:
    Row 3 77 Purple O2 Sensor, Bank 1, Post Cat, Pin A
    Row 3 76 Purple O2 Sensor, Bank 2, Post Cat, Pin A
    Row 1 19 Green O2 sensor, Pre Cat, Bank 1, Pin A
    Row 1 18 Green O2 sensor, Pre Cat, Bank 2, Pin A

    Other ECU Inputs:
    Row 1 16 Blue Grey Air Tempertature Sensor Pin 1
    Row 3 74 Grey Black Water Temperature Sensor 2, Pin 1
    Row 3 73 Purple Temperature AGK

    Catalytic Converter Overtemp:
    Row 3 66 Green Red Slow Down Light
    Row 1 14 Lite Blue Thermal TCU Bank 1
    Row 1 15 White Thermal TCU Bank 2

    There are possibly a few other wires that are going through the firewall (12v supply, etc), with with room for 12 - 12GA connections, that won't be a problem. This should make one of the more difficult and potentially damaging steps easy. I am inspired by what the Audi team had done in Le Mans when they swapped a transmission in 8 minutes!

    I have done this with other cars that I have owned and it greatly simplifies engine swaps and other major maintenance. I will likely go through most of the harness to see if I should re-wire other aspects of it. I realize that the GCK's have some popularity for good reason. Getting the car to run right does require connections where the signals being received by the computer are reasonably accurate.

    So much for resale value. :)
     
  24. ff355b

    ff355b Karting

    Feb 26, 2010
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    As some of you already mentioned, I typically don't sell my cars, I drive it to the ground ;)
     
  25. driveitdaily

    driveitdaily Formula 3

    Jul 20, 2013
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    ....let drbob101 drop a ladder on it !!!!! lol
     

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