What a shocker! /sarc Making F1 green is, one one hand, a responsible thing and it relates to future road car tech, so I'm OK with that. But in the grand scheme of things, it is a colossal joke: F1 teams FLY their cars and teams all over the world. I'm betting the carbon emissions of one week's worth of those flights dwarf the total carbon output of a COMPLETE SEASON of the cars in the old V10 formula into insignificance. A little bit of perspective would be a good thing. Cheers, George
Will be in Montreal this weekend for the race. I will get to hear this first hand and already braced myself for a huge let down compared to previous years.
It's a joke. F1 should be about one thing: absolute speed. Let some other formulas stroke themselves about new technology and social responsibility. F1 was never intended to do that.
F1 is just too complicated and controlled these days. Horrible sounds, silly fuel system, brake by wire, DRS, tyres...I bet the drivers just wanna race. Not told how to drive the car.
Why do something simple when you can do something complicated? That's what must've been said in the meeting for these new regs.
Bas, do you not think it's something to do with being relevant to the world we now live in, and relevant to the cars being produced today, as in eco friendly ect.
To be perceived as relevant. The only constituency interested in the greening of F1 are the big automakers. They supply the motors so they call the tune.
If F1 was truly relevant we'd be able to buy one with lights on and drive it to work. Mercedes is often seen as the leader in techno stuff for your car. If you want to see what a KIA has as standard equipment, look at the current S class and see what new stuff it has on it. Mercedes hasn't entered a Formula 1 race since 1955, only started again in 2010. In between that time, they came up with just about every feature possible on a car apart from the seatbelt. Which came from Volvo, who do not race in F1. If F1 wants to be truly eco friendly they should sell their trucks and but an iRacing account and let F1 drivers have a go there. That's about as eco as you can get...
Well: I just came back from the F-1 Race in Canada... and the sound was not too bad. it was about on par with the turbo cars... you could hear them on the other side of the track but they are not anywhere near as loud or ear piercing as they were before.... I did not need any ear protection - but you also could not talk when they were going by... So to me they are ok... louder is not always better. However the Ferrari Challenge was louder by a magnitude... The F-1 cars were just so amzingly fast - BUT i agree that the car needs to be loud enough that you cant hear the cars tires... when they were locking up it made a god awful scream... way louder than the engines... to me that is not quite F-1. the other cars were so loud that the engine noise covered all that up...
I suspect that there are a couple of Mercedes drivers who are not too happy with the state of Formula One this morning. Maybe one more unhappy than the other...
Not the entire soul, but yeah, to me anyway, a significant part of it. There's the history blah, blah, but I suspect (with apologies if I'm mistaken), you've never heard; - A Matra or Ferrari 12 on full song, coming over the brow into Paddock at Brands. - A DFV on the overrun on a cold morning at Silverstone. - Michael (& Rubens) V10's from the (empty, steel!) grandstand at Indy. You don't so much "hear" them as feel them, see them, "sense" them. And yeah, the noise is a large part of that "sensory overload". My 02c, cheers, Ian PS - The last example was my boys first GP. When they (eventually!) got going in FP1, they both (independently) turned to me & said "now I get it!" Made their pops proud it did!
I hear you Bas, but on another note I have read somewhere they have or someone is working on a road legal F1 car, if i can find it i will post it.
That is not the point. They are developing technology that can eventually be used on road cars. Has always been this way. Back in the 1930's you did not purchase an Alfa Romeo P3 single seater and drive it to work but later on you could buy a 8c2900 and that had pretty similar running gear. 1. In the late 50's/60's the disc brake was developed ... 2. Modern 4 valve engine technology was developer around this time ... 3. Modern forms of all independent suspension was developed too ... before then we had swing axles, or dedion ... 4. Tyre technology has constantly improved over the years thanks to F1 and other forms of racing ... 5. Chassis technology has improved over the years ... we even now have carbon chassis road cars ... 6. etc. So please guys F1 is not about developing F1 road cars, never has been but thanks to this modern formula and Le Mans I can see soon hybrid cars being the norm AND fun and exciting to drive, not just for those that are tight. Pete
