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308 pulling to the side under braking

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  1. nullspace

    nullspace Karting

    Apr 1, 2014
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    I've noticed that my 308 consistently pulls to the right under braking. The pull starts immediately on pressing the pedal and stops immediately when I release.

    My guess is that the left side isn't getting enough braking force, but I'm not sure where I should start looking. Is the most likely culprit a bad hose somewhere on the left side? Could it be clogged to the point that the caliper isn't clamping down? Is there a quick way to diagnose, or is this just a case of digging around until I find something?
     
  2. Steve Magnusson

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    Yes, but it's also possible that the piston(s) is frozen/corroded into the bore. Easiest diagnostic thing to do is just raise each wheel off the ground and have an assistant gently press the brake pedal (engine off) while you manually turn the (raised) wheel to see if the brakes do, or don't, add drag at that position. Is yours a neglected 308 that has never/rarely had the brake fluid changed, or has it had a long period(s) of disuse?

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  3. scowman

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    First thing I would do is check tire pressure.
     
  4. nullspace

    nullspace Karting

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    No my car was very well cared for with a relatively recent brake fluid flush. It also had a PPI last month and they didn't notice anything with the brakes. The pull isn't so dramatic that I can say for sure when it started though. I noticed what felt like instability under braking and it took me a few stops to realize what was happening.

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  5. nullspace

    nullspace Karting

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    I'll double check, but I would think a big difference in pressure left to right would be noticeable coasting too.
     
  6. Brian Harper

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    While you are there shake and tug on all the suspension components. Is the steering tight, consistent, and accurate?
     
  7. spirot

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    I experienced this exact same thing.

    Had to get the calipers re built & cleaned, there was dirt in the system - most likely from deteriorating piston. this is a serious safety issue - take care of it soon.

    Do the annual flush & fill on brake fluids... it really helps.
     
  8. daviday

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    I would recommend the same along with the obvious tire/brake issue. Sounds like a bushing may likely need to be replaced. I've always had more linear feedback when components that are symmetrically engineered, are replaced in tandem with one another. Something that is often an oversight due to the economics of the original issue.
     
  9. nullspace

    nullspace Karting

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    I hadn't even considered that - a cracked bushing could cause the suspension arm to move when the car dives under braking? Interesting. I know it needs new bushings (they are original) but I was putting it off until the winter.
     
  10. daviday

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    I'm not very familiar with the design on the 308 but I would say most likely. Definitely replace them when you can.
     
  11. VIZSLA

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    If they're original they need to go.
     
  12. Crowndog

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    Same issue until caliper rebuild and new rotors and pads on all four corners. These ATE brakes need TLC after so long in service IMHO. Must also add that suspension bushings where also changed so can't be definitive on cause which of course makes this post useless. Sorry, it's early in the morning and only one cup of coffee so far.
     
  13. Ehamilton

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    No coffee at all so far today, but I think I can make it to the submit button before I collapse...

    I also had the same problem, and it took a caliper rebuild and rotor and pads to make it go away. I did not touch my bushings, so I know it was the brake work that mare the difference. (I also replaced the brake hoses at each corner, but I'd consider that de rigeur for the caliper rebuild)
     
  14. Crowndog

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    Agree! With all of it including hoses.


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  15. Steve King

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    If you have original hoses I would replace them 1st and see what you get before I start removing and rebuilding calipers. Also if you drive on a flat smooth road at say 30mph what happens when you lock up the brakes (panic stop).
     
  16. nerodino

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    Sticking caliper, I had the same thing however with a fair bit of use it came round and is absolutely fine now.
     

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