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  1. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Been pulled over many times in my Ferraris, mostly my fault for speeding but some for just owning a red car :rolleyes:

    2007 was pulled over at 1am in Sydney by smart arse copper who decided to give me grief for owning such a car, within minutes there were 6-8 HWP cars parked watching this **** give me a hard time.

    My passenger had his mobile out filming the whole episode, another copper told him to shut it down, then the initial copper decided he wanted to take my car for a drive, told him to **** off ... nicely.

    They tried to lie to me that I had driven at 80 kph through a 60 zone as I had out of state plates on the QV and they thought I wouldn't know the local speed signing .... I grew up where they tried this on and I KNEW the zone was signed for 80.

    Eventually after 10-15 mins they had tired of all this and got in their ****boxes and went off to have a chuckle over some coffee and doughnuts.

    Months later in the same state I was fined $300 and 3 points for no front numberplate and then was told I had committed a VERY, VERY serious crime :rolleyes: .... yeah, for the IRS maybe !!!

    Was fined several weeks ago by the local tossers when I was BEHIND a Prius while said tossers aimed their speed gun at my car TWICE in the space of 300 metres while never passing the Prius yet I get pulled over and told I'm doing 81 in a 70 zone, when I asked what speed the Prius was doing I really started to get the condescending attitude and told to shut up, and they wonder why I have such a great attitude to them.

    Just to balance it all, ONCE, in 42 years of driving I had a copper in Brisbane pull me over to warn me about fixed radar further up the HWY as he noticed I would speed up to pass double Bs on the 4 lane HWY as they couldn't see a small 308 so low to the ground and I would always brake as I cleared the trucks ...... nice thought by the cop but he still had an attitude when I pulled my license and rego for inspection, asked me if I was feeling guilty

    BTW never call them blue-shirted tax collectors here in Oz, it has never helped my cause :eek:
     
  2. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    double sided tape mate, works for me on several ferraris so far :)

    Some dealers put very well made stickers on the cars before they leave the showroom .... this is also illegal here, $300 and 3 points
     
  3. mello

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    It's a ego booster for them to pull over a Ferrari in full traffic view. :)
     
  4. G. Pepper

    G. Pepper Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I didn't have to drill anything, the bracket just clips on (And it's been good up to 145 MPH). :)

    Cheers,

    George
     
  5. AceMaster

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    He can't - he's been banned for 2 days
     
  6. AceMaster

    AceMaster Three Time F1 World Champ

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    As others have stated; it has nothing to do with you owning a Ferrari, and everything to do with your driving for that particular situation. If you were driving a Honda, the same would have happened.
     
  7. robertpel9

    robertpel9 Formula Junior
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    Yes because he would not have arrested me or if he did it would have been a grand waste of time and a joke as i would have gone to the station / hospital. Taken the test, had no issue and would have been released with no charges. They use scare tactics or just assume the public does not know its rights. There was no legitimate probable cause. I damn near refused the flashlight test which I don't have to do either. Sure he can arrest me on the spot but generally they are not taking you downtown unless they are pretty damn sure you are intoxicated. My best friend has been a LEO for 15 years and told me all of the BS and tricks and scams
     
  8. robertpel9

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    So and really i am looking to learn here as this shocks me. It is suspicious driving to over the course of nearly two miles move from the far left lane to the exit lane to get off the highway??? If so that blows my mind as how else do you safely exit. Had my blinker ona nd slowly did one lane at a time when it was safe to do so. Lights came on while in the exiting lane about a quarter mile form the exit

    I'd like to believe this is standard fare but i have not been pulled over in literally forever and it seems coincidental, maybe so though
     
  9. robertpel9

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    I would not be surprised if he had one. He did the follow the flashlight (HGN) test for about 10-15 seconds. Wifey had a few cocktails and i had 4 beers over a 5 hour period so I dont know if this flashlight woud have picked anything up or not

    I am all for getting drunks off the road (Texters to for that matter as that seems as bad or worse) but people should not have to be paranoid about getting stopped and harassed while driving and acting responsibly
     
  10. amenasce

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    Double side tape. I had them on my Porsche for a while, i would just replace them every now and then. But most of the time i would drive without front plate in downtown Chicago and they would bug me unless i parked it, then id get a ticked if i forgot to put the plate on. Most cops wont give you a hard time if you are driving an exotic unless they are dicks or they need to generate $$.
     
  11. AceMaster

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  12. big_guy

    big_guy F1 Rookie

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    Something does not make sense. In your first post, you mentioned that you moved over 6 lanes of traffic. In this post you imply that you moved over the course of 2 miles. Why would you mention the 6 lanes if it took you 2 miles to complete the maneuver?
     
  13. mwr4440

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    Here you can refuse all you like.

    They will get their quart regardless. By force if necessary.


    If you have a license, you have already given consent.
     
  14. DGS

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    Cops do tend to get suspicious when a car changes lanes to the right within sight of the cop.

    Maybe they think that someone who already thinks he's guilty of something is an easy revenue source.

    Oddly enough, the EVO (ricer) gets more hassles from the cops than the Ferrari.
    Especially in MA. The cops think the ricer will be driven by a kid who never read the Constitution, but they worry the Ferrari driver will be represented by Dewey, Cheatem, and Howe. :p

    In VA, I almost got tail-ended by a local cop, because he was so fixated on the EVO's big wing that he never saw the guy who ran a stop sign to cut me off. (And the EVO stops much shorter than the junk boxes they saddle cops with.)
     
  15. Bas

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    But it would've been YOUR time wasted. Surely in the US the cop would have had a breathalyzer kit in his car? It takes less than 30 seconds. You blow, test negative, cop apologizes, you tell him to keep up the good work keeping drunks of the road and you're on your way. Chances are next time he sees you he might not even stop you, or be a bit more lenient when you've been speeding a little.

    By refusing you're just coming of as arrogant and pretend to be above him, which will only affect you negatively. Next time he'll stop you he'll find something. All you're doing is making the situation difficult for yourself to illustrate a pointless point. If he does arrest you, and force you to do a blood test or whatever, you get out a few hours later and do what, say ''HA! I told you I wasn't drunk!'', at which point he'll shrug his shoulders and can tell his buddies at the station that the guy he arrested for a routine stop was being such ****** for no possible reason.
     
  16. robertpel9

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    Thats exactly the point, it made zero sense to me to be stopped. He said "unecessary lane changes" so i quantified the number of lanes. Really that simple. It's fine though, all is well that ends well.
     
  17. robertpel9

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    I cant argue that this is not what would happen (although i doubt he would have taken his time to arrest me with no real evidence of cause). Also I was and would have continued to be super polite. I was not rude or condescending or anything of the sort. I respect the police, i also respect my rights. Breathalyzers are far from accurate and I feel that the harassment people go thru in the name of keeping the roads safe is overboard. People who are intoxicated should not be driving. Period. I agree with that. On the flipside a person should not have to be paranoid about having a couple of glasses of wine with dinner and then heading home in a responsible manner. I had a close friend who consented to the whole farce that is the field sobriety test, "failed" (Even sober people fail this test when they do show and tells on it) refused the breath test, was arrested, taken to the station and had a blood test and it came back at .03. His charges were dismissed 4 months and $7000 later.

    Yes it would have been a loss of my time but at the same time sometimes standing up for yourself and your rights is worth something

    We can agree to disagree, i respect your opinion. The doesn't mean one of us is right or wrong. For me I am not taking their circus tests or being harassed when i am following all traffic laws, being polite and coherent, etc.
     
  18. BigTex

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    A Rapid Eye Movement test IS a field test, but is done with a pen and a flashlight.

    I think it was the rapid change of lanes...

    To the OP, the thing to remember is the attention factor of a Ferrari, and LEO is "only human" to notice one, then go thru a check list of things that might be wrong....a rapid change of lanes to hit an exit, is a red flag you are "new to town, lost, or maybe...impaired

    It's then their job, especially on a Holiday weekend, to find out.

    But, I find my interaction with LEO from my Ferrari is largely positive.
    It's all what you make it.
     
  19. ZINGARA 250GTL

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    That is a good point. At speed, things alter quickly and it is prudent to check things before changing lanes again across six lanes.
     
  20. Statler

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    Gregg, what the hell?

    This is the exact thing people hate about police. Exact.

    It is also the reason we are now running dash cams in all cars to record everything. It is sad when people have to protect themselves from those in positions of authority because they think like this post.

    A little ironic that all the cameras around invading privacy end up being used to protect us from uniformed thugs.

    What is your justification for this post?
     
  21. Statler

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    We have a friend is is scary accurate with eye movement test. Pegs people at parties within .01 all the time. Pretty cool party trick.

    Other than the hassle of pulling over the OP stop sounded polite and very quick. :)
     
  22. TexasF355F1

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    Just let it go already. If you don't want the attention get rid of your ferrari.

    In high school and college I had cops, literally slam on their brakes and do a 180 and follow me because my truck was lowered. I hate the attention, but to drive something you like is par for the course.

    You're being overly sensitive.
     
  23. mikeyr

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    In a earlier post you said you had 4 beers in 5 hours, that had to be on your mind when you said you would refuse the test if he had requested one. I know that 4 beers in 5 hours I would be laying in bed, quite drunk, I also know my wife would still pass the "walk the line" test, so we are all different. But I have a different perspective on drinking and driving. I will NOT drink alchool if I am going to drive, I only drink at the end of the day at home when I know I am not going anywhere and yes, that means NO wine with dinner at the nice restaurant.

    I would have handled it differently, after the flashlight test I probably would have asked the cop if he wanted me to do a breath test since I am all for harsh enforcement of getting drunks off the road (that is the motorcyclist in me). I have about 25,000 miles in 3 years of driving my 360, including lots of times in L.A. area, Monterey, San Fran, etc. and not been stopped YET. Well actually I did once, it was one of those road side stops where they stop everyone, showed him license and registration he flashed a flashlight into my face and said "love the ride, have fun" it took all of about 1.5 minutes.

    Then again, I don't drink anyway, I buy a 6 pack of Corona's for Cinqo de Mayo (not sure why since I am French and that is a celebration of kicking France's ass), I drink one, use one or 2 on the ribs I am smoking and give out the other 3 to friends who come for the ribs.
     
  24. TexasF355F1

    TexasF355F1 Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    So do you drink at the end of the day, don't drink or just drink on Cinco de Mayo? Don't berate the OP and then give wishy-washy comments.

    For the regular drinker, 4 beers in 5 hours would have absolutely no effect.
     

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