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  1. Robb

    Robb Moderator
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    Steve,

    I'll bet that if you poll only the owners of the '95 cars, MOST would ONLY buy a '95 again and skip THE 96-99... Prices and condition being equal

    :)

    Not that there is anything wrong with the later years...

    Just less fuss with the '95.

    If there was a '95 F1 model, you would bring many more into the fold!

    Robb


     
  2. Steve355F1

    Steve355F1 F1 World Champ
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    I know Robb. It's no big deal. Sometimes I just have a chuckle at owners who bang on about the '95 as if it's the only one worth having. Or try to claim that they are worth more money etc.

    To be honest, I actively avoided the 2.7 cars when I was looking, and I bet I'm not alone in that. I also bet that if you conducted a similar poll on owners of the later cars you'd get basically the same result.
    We all prefer what we prefer for our own reasons and that's fine.

    Where I do lose my sense of humour a little is when '95 owners claim their cars make more power, but I don't really want to start all that again... :)
     
  3. Robb

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    I don't buy the more power claims either. I just prefer the lack of fobs and emissions OBD 1.

    I don't miss the glove box. :) I do think the 95's are more likely to need the valve replacement although many will also believe what they believe on this one too. Mine needed it in its first 5 years and it was taken care of back then.

    I like your "we all prefer what we prefer"

    I'll buy that.

    Best.

    Robb
     
  4. Steve Harkness

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    I decided I love to hear that beautiful v 8 orchestra without having to deal with a messy ragtop. Viva the gts!!
     
  5. Steve355F1

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    Cheers Robb

    Not to mention without ruining the perfect lines of the Berlinetta!
     
  6. Steve Harkness

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    +1
     
  7. drbob101

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    I would not advise anyone to buy without doing a CC and leak down.

    I had a deposit on an over the top serviced car that ran great and had been well taken care of. It's all documented in my posts. Failed cc and ld twice. Tests done at a fcar dealer.

    If you don't do this you don't know what you own. That car "ran great". I am thankful I had the tests done or I would own a problem car.

    You can crap shoot, it's your money, but you don't know what you don't know.
     
  8. Dave rocks

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    Bob, as we know, the LD test can give many different results (as John proved to us). The reality is that someone is now enjoying the car you passed on, that "ran great".

    Not saying you were wrong to walk. Just saying no one really knows if that car had an issue or if it had one to really be concerned about.
     
  9. drbob101

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    I totally disagree.

    You don't know if someone is enjoying that car at all. It had two cylinders that had way below normal compression tests. That was not just a leakdown issue. All that did is confirm the problem.

    Two different Ferrari techs, one a master with national recognition advised me to not buy that car. The CC was done twice, once after an Italian tune up with the same results. Something was wrong with that engine, specifically in two cylinders. That problem was not going away without at least a top end rebuild. The Porsche dealer who was elling it was clueless and their jaw dropped when they saw the PPI results.

    This is the type of issue that anyone buying one if these cars without a CC done can own. I speak from experience and an actual incident, not "maybe". I did the same with the car I now own and I do own it because all was well with the CC.

    If you buy one without a CC, you are throwing darts. It is your money but caveat emptor.
     
  10. ClydeM

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    I have a '95. I'd go for a manual Fiorano any day of the week.
     
  11. Steve355F1

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    No such thing.

    Although I suspect you know that and are just having fun.

    At least you get points for calling it a manual and not a "6-speed"
     
  12. johnk...

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    Not true. "There were 100 Serie Fiorano units delivered to the U.S. market, 74 with the F1 transmission and 26 with the 6-speed manual."
     
  13. Dino Chang

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    I always thought there was manual fiioranos, but I was not sure. I don't think I have ever seen one, have you any pictures? A manual fiorano, a true analogue drivers car. :)
     
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    John,
    Their were also Fiorano handling package cars which were available in every market excluding the US. That package was available on the GTS and GTBs.
     
  16. Dino Chang

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    All this time and I was correct, at times it felt like I was going mad. Now that is the perfect 355:) Thank you for posting.
     
  17. Steve355F1

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    #67 Steve355F1, Jul 10, 2014
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    There you go. I stand corrected! :)

    For me, the perfect 355 would be a GTS F1 Serie Fiorano.

    And I reckon the fastest 355 would be a Challenge with the F1 box.
     
  18. johnk...

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    But as I said, there was no such animal. All Fioranos were spiders. Ferrari knew what they were doing.

    I find the current price trends interesting. Production wise, GTS are the rarest, about 2600, then spiders, 3700, then GTBs, 4900. Spiders seem to get resold a lot and many get wrecked. GTS and GTB seem to be coveted at the present. Thus, by the time these cars become real collector items many spiders will be in poor repair or will have been wrecked meaning there will only be a few good ones, and the price on spiders will surpass those of the GTB and GTS. How's that for a fairy tail? :)
     
  19. Steve355F1

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    It's a good fantasy, and I agree Ferrari knew what they were doing.
    They knew they could make the most money by making the Serie Fioranos Spiders.

    Just my personal view, but I think the best 355 of all would be a GTS with the Fiorano specs and the F1 box. It is certainly possible to do that (I may well do it to mine) but it wouldn't be factory, and therefore would probably decrease the value rather than increase it.
     
  20. MS250

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    No 99 of the 100 is here in Toronto, red/blk and is a 6speed.

    Pictures of it on fchat from yrs ago.

    Haven't seen the car since maybe 2008/9
     
  21. johnk...

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    They are all great cars. Probably the best trade off between street use and performance Ferrari has offered.
     
  22. Steve355F1

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    All 355s are 6 speeds.

    Agreed. Not to mention the best looking Ferrari between 246 and 458. :)
     

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