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Quattroporte III catch-all thread

Discussion in 'Maserati' started by Quattroporte3, Jun 27, 2011.

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  1. MK1044

    MK1044 Two Time F1 World Champ

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  2. Tracycallahan

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    #927 Tracycallahan, Jun 16, 2014
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    In case it helps, this is the vacuum diagram from my 84 US version Quattroporte. I am also having issues with a rough idle and hesitation upon acceleration. These posts have been very helpful and I'm going to work on the vacuum system to see if the idle gets better before I attempt to rebuild the carbs. Thanks for the informative posts.
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  3. guygowrie

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  5. highwaybora

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    QP 3 -- but skip the heavy MoPar... go Ford 302 (narrow) or say 351 and use Jon Kaase's P38 heads, and some crossover fuel injection stacks... make 500hp+ in a luxo-cruiser with fantastic interior leather couchee.
     
  6. Quattroporte3

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    #932 Quattroporte3, Jun 27, 2014
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    Mine's slightly different, but appears to work the same way. This is from a 1980 model.
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  7. Thestash

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    #933 Thestash, Jun 27, 2014
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  8. Thestash

    Thestash Karting

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  9. porkchopious

    porkchopious Formula Junior

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    looks badass, rock on!
     
  10. Mexico074

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    Looks good Tony!!!

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  11. Thestash

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  12. William Abraham

    William Abraham Formula Junior

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    Who was looking for a tool kit. I may have one for sale and I have 2 jacks also!

    Best
     
  13. c20500

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  14. Quattroporte3

    Quattroporte3 Formula 3

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    #940 Quattroporte3, Jul 20, 2014
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    Been trying out some different things regarding sun visors, and was able to mount a small grub screw on the tensioning spring to help some of the sagging.

    As pointed out by someone else here previously, most of the sagging is caused by the plastic mounts, the main post breaks, allowing excessive play and causing the visor to hang down. You can see in the pictures how the main plastic post on the mounting plate has broken off and is riding up at the top of the spring. It's this post that keeps things taut and the visor from flopping around and sagging.

    I've tried gluing mine and reinforcing it with aluminum tape, but it doesn't help.

    Maybe this part is standard and has been used in other Italian cars?

    Maybe some shop could create a new mold and cast a short run for all of us with sagging visors? Either in plastic, or even better machined out of aluminum. In which case it wouldn't break, and one could paint the baseplate in a matching color to keep the same look.

    Maybe a 3D printer could make one (if it's strong enough)?

    The plastic mounting plate is held on to the metal bar by a spring, washer and circlip. It's straightforward to replace, if a suitable replacement could be found.

    Anyone?
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  15. GLB

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    You can print even stainless steel, so I think you could get adequate strength, if not with plastic, then with metal. My curiosity got the better of me, so I took apart the visor in my car. The piece is not broken and son Will says it really wouldn't be difficult to do a 3D laser scan of it; in fact he says he'll do that this week. Flipping the pattern for the right side would be simple. Don't hold your breath, but maybe he'll get a pattern up on Shapeways so you can order one.
     
  16. Quattroporte3

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    Amazing.

    I had no idea one could 3D print with stainless. Going to have to do some Googling...

    Never heard of Shapeways either, but it looks like there's an entire world there that I had no idea even existed.

    Thanks again for helping, and for bringing to my attention services I had never even thought of before.

     
  17. GLB

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    I don't know much about it either; I use my son as my source. Will's been making CAD files from obsolete car parts every once in a while to build up a data base. He's done some parts from his Fiat 1200 cabriolet and is thinking about doing some taillight housings (or lamp sockets - I forget) for his 430.

    He's done the initial scan on the visor mount. Now he needs to use the CAD program to fill in gaps, smooth surfaces, etc. I'll order one and try it out on my visor before he releases it to Shapeways.

    That company mainly supports art and crafts, but he's had good luck making car and tool parts there, too. The arrangement is that the designer verifies the CAD file, then places it with Shapeways. Anyone can go to their site and order the part. Unfortunately, they don't offer the beige color of the original, so you'll have to paint it, unless you want, say, bright red or lemon yellow!
     
  18. Quattroporte3

    Quattroporte3 Formula 3

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    What an amazing development and fantastic idea.

    Sounds good. I noticed that they offer a range of various materials to choose from. I wonder if the standard hard plastic/nylon would be close enough to the original, and strong enough, compared to the stock part. Stainless would be cool, although I'm not sure I want the added weight on the car ;-).

    Nice! Personalize your ride! Very cool. Lemon yellow would go great with the two tone green Indy on the other thread here.
     
  19. GLB

    GLB Formula Junior

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    Will says there are some constraints with different materials, but since it's printed rather than cast, you can use just about anything and it will be dimensionally correct. I plan to get the proto in plastic as you mention. I think it might work better to provide the friction needed. And yes, weight is a big concern here ... reminds me of Jensen using aluminum lug nuts on my road-going-locomotive Interceptor.

    Once he's uploaded the design it will take 9-10 days to get the first one. I'll post a note when we get it.
     
  20. bundas

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    430 Maserati! I figured I had the only one in this group. I have a shop working on the air conditioning, the last thing to fix. it is very quick. comfy and easy to drive
     
  21. Quattroporte3

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    Am in the middle of redoing the rear suspension since the rear wheel bearings haven't been installed correctly and came loose (that's twice now).

    We figured while it's apart, might as well fix up the other stuff, replace bushings, etc.

    I'm stuck on one part nobody seems to have. In the diagram it's number 63, "link bush", looks like a section of pipe that fits over the hub holder pin, part number is: 329.42.91.00.

    Tried all the usual suspects and have drawn a blank. Does anyone know of any other places that might have something like this lying around?

    Just out of curiosity, does anyone know where the QP3 rear suspension comes from? Judging by the look of it, it's obviously Jaguar, but *which* Jaguar? XJ6 series 3 would be the same timeframe and approximate weight and style of car, and I found a parts diagram that shows the same link bush, but from experience I know they may be very different even though they possess a passing similarity.

    Have a look here: SNG Barratt - The Ultimate Jaguar Parts Specialist, part number C.16623/1.

    Looks awfully close...
     
  22. GLB

    GLB Formula Junior

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    I really like Will's 430, but after he'd done all the work to wake it up from its 10 year sleep, it was running fine and then the starter motor quit before I got to drive it. He was fed up, but I think he's finally decided to fix it, so I may get to drive the thing yet!
     
  23. GLB

    GLB Formula Junior

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    #949 GLB, Jul 24, 2014
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    Here's your visor mount in progress. The coarse one is an early3D scan composite. The rendering is after smoothing the surface - and no, he didn't forget the holes!

    The only Jaguar we have is an SIII E-type, but if you think it would be useful, I think I can measure the OD and length of the sleeve on that one; seems to be accessible.
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  24. Quattroporte3

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    Looks really good!

    Don't bother about the E-type link bush, from what I've found so far the QP3 has a somewhat different arrangement. I'll keep looking for the part, or see if I can replicate the ones on my car.
     

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