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  1. Ian Rattray

    Ian Rattray Rookie

    Jul 14, 2014
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    It’s always a dilemma as to whether or not to reply to some postings or not, sometimes you fan the smoke into a fire, that is not my intent, I feel this time however the posts require at least a simple reply on my part as this seems to get out of hand.

    My name is Ian Rattray and to clarify everything I am the owner of My Ricambi L.L.C and its respective website. I think I need to clarify a few details here.

    In response to Daniel of Ricambi America, please be assured that any reference to your company name was purely as a result of utilizing the merely explicit word “ricambi” which means in Italian “spare parts”. I, in no way intended to misdirect anyone from your business, I fully respect your company and the trusted clientele you have created, I would hope that I can create a niche customer base with the deserved reputation and following you have so amicably achieved.

    We clearly state that we are not associated with Ricambi America and have disclaimers on the website indicating as much (About us and Terms & Conditions).

    We are a small operation trying to compete in a niche market, utilizing unique ideas and concepts, not those borrowed from others.

    To Mr. Taurino, I can only state the facts, we HAVE not, DO not and WILL not sell any exhausts systems or parts, for which you are exclusive distributor, in the USA market. Any inquiries for the US market have and will be forwarded to an authorized representative.

    I am always open for direct communication. So either Daniel or Andrea or whomever, please feel free to PM me or email me directly at [email protected] if you wish to further discuss further any topics raised.

    Personally, I am very weary of making blatant statements in open forums that can have, or have legal ramifications; I understand how litigious this can be, but again, if you have a beef against me or my company, I will appreciate for you to contact me directly.

    Thank you to all, and I hope this settles that.

    Ian Rattray
     
  2. mseals

    mseals Two Time F1 World Champ
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    But, you're advertising Capristo Exhausts on your website for referral purposes only?

    Really?
     
  3. Ian Rattray

    Ian Rattray Rookie

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    #28 Ian Rattray, Jul 14, 2014
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    Did I say that?
    Read my post, it is very clear and self explanatory.
    Again: "... we HAVE not, DO not and WILL not sell any exhausts systems or parts, for which you are exclusive distributor, in the USA market. Any inquiries for the US market have and will be forwarded to an authorized representative."

    The same applies wherever an official distributor is located (UK, India etc...)

    We do not have any US pricing, and if you look at our site, as far as Capristo is concerned, we have "Request A Quote" for the simple reasons that we do treat each and every requests very carefully in order not to impede on anyone's territory. So for "someone" to call my "activity" "a fraud" or state mis-leading and unfounded facts about myRicambi.com's ownership, operations or products sold, when he has absolutely no clues on how how I run my business is quite ironic and most certainly defamatory.

    Like I said Mr. Taurino is more than welcome to contact me directly if he wants to. I welcome him to do so, and I will certainly entertain his call or email in the utmost civilized manner. It's up to him!

    Ian Rattray.
     
  4. DesertDawg

    DesertDawg Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    Well, if you look at the drop-down menu section that reads "Products - What We Sell", and you click on "Ferrari", for example, then click on "458", again, for example, then click on "Exhaust Systems", you will find Capristo components listed there.

    If you don't sell that brand, then why are you putting them under the section which is clearly labeled: "Products - What We Sell."?

    I'd say that's deceptive, flat-out.
     
  5. GrigioGuy

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    I don't know about the business practices, but the implication from his earlier post is that he sells worldwide, but not into markets with an exclusive arrangement with someone else.

    Ultimately, this is at worst a contract dispute between two private parties, and doesn't impact Fchat or most of its users at all.
     
  6. rob lay

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    they are only selling them internationally. I think he is saying they are authorized to sell them everywhere but United States. I couldn't find that listed on website though, I would think it should be made clear.

    I'm positive that when someone asks for Capristo in the United States, that they immediately refer them to Taurino. :)
     
  7. rob lay

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    Reminder when Tubi sued me because HG Parts was selling exhausts outside their territory on FerrariChat. :D Don't you wish your cases could be that easy.
     
  8. GrigioGuy

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    Yep. But here that's not a problem.

    Heck, if anything, the myricambi site has more visibility now due to this thread than it had before. The owner should be thanking the OP for the SEO among the desired clientele.
     
  9. HotShoe

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    Lesson of the day is to trademark your name. Then you won't have this problem of someone adding a letter or two to your brand as a PR boost.

    I'm sure if I registered myferrari.com I would be squashed down by a team of lawyers in two minutes.
     
  10. ryalex

    ryalex Two Time F1 World Champ
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    1. Foreign words are assigned their translated meanings by the USPTO.

    2. Because the words are descriptive, you could not register a trademark for "spare parts" unless you had convincing evidence that consumers across America primarily associate the commercial meaning of "spare parts" with your business.

    3. Since you cannot register "spare parts," "ricambi" would also be denied registration.

    4. Further, "America" is geographically descriptive and would be denied registration.

    5. You could try and register "Ricambi America" as a combined word mark, while having each word disclaimed individually. It would only be enforceable as a combined mark together... but then again, you can do that anyway since TM rights are based on commercial use and not on the registration. Registration gets you notice and statutory damages.
     
  11. GrigioGuy

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    Yes, but "Ferrari" (while a surname) has enough secondary meaning that it's a valid trademark. However, generic words, even in another language, standing alone (read: ricambi = spare parts or parts) generally don't warrant protection.

    So Ricambi America, or even MyRicambi, can likely (note the weasel words!) be trademarked, but neither can prevent someone else from using ricambi in a business name or URL.

    (I am not yet a lawyer, and this is all simplified, but it's close).
     
  12. ryalex

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    You type too slow. ;)
     
  13. GrigioGuy

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    I had to add the disclaimer :)
     
  14. Capristo Exhaust USA

    Capristo Exhaust USA Formula Junior
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    Remove all the capristo Brand and products
    What don't you understand .
    We dont want you to sell outside the us or even on the moon
    Myricambi is fraudulent deceiving the public worldwide
    You ignore all our legal request to trade and copy right infringements.
     
  15. Nospinzone

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    I repeat......

    So are they selling counterfeits? Made in China maybe?
     
  16. Capristo Exhaust USA

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    Myricambi Started by Denis Leborgne back in January who happened to be dismissed from Capristo USA back in 2013.

    He claims to sell renowned products like Capristo but the truth of the matter he is not.
    Its just a matter of time until the law is reinforced.

    Mr Denis Leborgne soon we will expose your true identity and your game plan with your newly formed company .

    Until then we at Capristo advise you to remove our products and looks like you already removed the false prices of our products .
     
  17. AceMaster

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    Do they not have to remove the Capristo brand in its entirety from their site as well? Or just the pricing?
     
  18. Capristo Exhaust USA

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    correct everything from logo , pictures , information ,must be removed .

    We select and allow only companies that are reputable and capable in understanding and assisting the consumer .

    Those such company have permission to use our logo , pictures and information
     
  19. AceMaster

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    In that case, you are a patient individual. If it was me, I would issue one warning...and if no response or result after that warning then I would come down, hard, with the hammer. ;)
     
  20. Ian Rattray

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    No further comments!
     
  21. mseals

    mseals Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I would say 'No further comments' is a comment that speaks volumes.
     
  22. Ian Rattray

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    Quite clear.
     
  23. rob lay

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    are you an official Capristo distributor anywhere?
     
  24. Jaguar 15

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    Rob, I believe, is asking the $99 question. Correct me if I am wrong folks...

    Andrea is a dealer/distributor, has the US rights to Capristo but is NOT the manufacturer nor owner of Capristo out of Germany.

    Ian (dealer/distributor?) is saying he can sell Capristo anywhere overseas....just NOT in the US market.

    My guess is the "cease and desist" order has to come from Capristo-Germany as owner of the company that authorizes dealer/distributors, for Ian to stop selling worldwide.

    FYI---I don't know either of these gentleman...just my 2 cent thought which might be worth nothing
     
  25. rob lay

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    Capristo is a sponsor, I have the owners email around and have talked to him a few times. I want to hear it from myricambi though.
     

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