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Now this is my idea of a PPI! (pics)

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  1. Badabing!

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    Houston we have a problem on #6
     
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  4. Badabing!

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    the exposed wire runs to the fuel pump. looks like something has been gnawing on it.....

    various oil leaks

    torn axle boot

    steering rack bellows totally annihilated

    also in one of the pics of the oil leaks, you will notice white silicone. whoever did the major siliconed all the valve covers, cam seals, etc
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  5. Badabing!

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    so the seller has been touting this as a pristine, need nothing car, and has an asking price that is the highest I've seen and hasn't been willing to budge.

    so far it potentially needs cats and valve guides, as well as some of the other more minor issues shown.

    That steering rack looks scary as well.

    also has evidence of paint on the rear bumper and driver side rear quarter panel and a "questionable" recent major.

    hopefully this will convince him to price the car more realistically.
     
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  6. kylec

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    Is it really called compressure?
     
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    Who did that PPI? I would absolutely use them.
     
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    Torn CV boots are common. The rack however is an involved repair. Unless you plan to do a lot of work yourself Neil, this will be expensive to repair.
     
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    Reality check for the seller.

    Cv boots no big deal.

    Steering pia and money. Not a huge deal

    Fuel oump wiring. Eh

    Now.... What does the cc and ld mean???
     
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    Classic Coach in Elizabeth NJ.

    You have got to see their facility. These guys are the real deal.

    If you want fancy shop floors, a comfortable waiting room, and free bottled water go to the dealer.

    If you want to see all manner and vintage of F-cars in various states of disassembly, and people working on them who clearly know what they are doing, go to these guys.

    Another F-chatter had this car PPI'd at the dealer not more than a month and 200 miles ago. I have discussed this car with him at length.

    I don't believe the dealer caught any of these issues and performed what seems to be a dubious compression test with results in the low 100's (like 105 - 110).
     
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    What did they recommend to you about the engine numbers?
     
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    Classic coach is the best. They have treated me very well and a tour if that shop is eye opening.

    First class operation.
     
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    Don't get me wrong, it's not all doom and gloom.

    It does already have a Tubi muffler! (OEM headers though).

    But seriously, the car presents well cosmetically and is very clean. I also drove it and although it wasn't an extended drive nor did I push it, it seemed fine save for the previously mentioned CEL and Airbag light.

    The shop advised me that although it has some issues, its still worth pursuing provided the price is in line with its needs. Once sorted, it could be a great car.
     
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    They said that compression was on the lower end of the range but not alarming.

    Clearly cylinder 6 is an issue, and 2 and 8 are a bit elevated in terms of leakdown and that some head work (valve guides either way, and they don't replace with oem) would most likely be required.

    But, it's not an emergency and that the engine won't "blow up" because of it and I could drive the car for awhile, even possibly till its next major and address it then.
     
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    If the steering rack is within tolerances why would it be hard to replace the boots? I would think that pulling the rod ends off the end of the tie rod would make this a quick job with the rack still in the car.

    Not trying to be a jerk, just wondering.
     
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    I think the consensus is that those boots appear to have been compromised for quite sometime and there is a considerable amount of grit that has damaged the oil seals requiring replacement or rebuild.
     
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    Walking into classic coach is like walking back in time to the 60's! You see cars there that most people only dream of seeing. And if you have a chance to go upstairs... forget it.. game over.
     
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    Yep...and if Onofrio is there you get to meet a true gentleman and a get a fresh cup of expresso to boot. Wonderful people at all levels.

    A class operation for sure.

    Its kind of funny but Classic Coach sits right next to the North Jersey Coast line railroad tracks in a pretty urban area of Elizabeth, NJ and anyone who takes the train to NYC from here passes it on every trip. Since getting my car so many people have said to me, do you know the Ferrari dealer you see from the rain in Elizabeth? I do now.
     
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    Now I think I'll buy a car in NJ just so I can have them do the PPI. Impressive.
     
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    Wow, yeah. Should look a little more like this. (mine)

    I haven't mentioned it yet on FChat, but mine is currently on consignment. Not a Berlinetta though. Mine is a Spider (Red on black).
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    What's all that black mess over the orange brake ducting?
    Is that rust on the disc near the mounting hub?
     
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    The black one is the coating they spray under the fenders. The dealers are instructed to respray under the fenders after service if the coating gets nicked while they're working on it. You'll notice in the PPI photos, that the orange tube has been entirely covered in the black stuff.

    The rotor is made out of steel, so yes it does oxidize. If you've seen other 355 rotors, you'll recognize that this is a very good looking one.
     
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    *thumbs up*

    Great thread and great info from a PPI. I have been through Elizabeth and it is a pretty rough area, good to know there would be a reason to venture in for a top notch establishment like this.
     
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    Ugh
    That brake duct needs a clean up good and proper..lets the rest of it down
    I had my discs stove enameled black in all those areas where rust appears...very tasty
     

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