488 GTB (458 replacement)

He should replace Jose Manuel Barosso.

 

As a case in point:

My BMW X5M ran 625 hp from a 4.4L V-8 with 19 psi boost and an aftermarket exhaust. It weighed closed to 5500 pounds. At a steady 80 mph it would get 16 mpg. Any faster and economy would drop like a stone because it had the aerodynamics of a large brick.

My FF runs 650 hp from a 6.3L NA V-12. But it weighs only 4000 pounds and has good aerodynamics. At a steady 80 mph it will deliver 18 mpg. At 90 mph it is just about the same.

So weight and decent aerodynamics can help a lot.

 

If the transmission can deal with the engine TORQUE then there is a way to cool it adequately so that engine HP does not burn it up.

TQ breaks things, HP burns them up.

 

Translation: Carbon Fiber

 

BTW a red Tesla and my 458 Spider passed each other on the back road today...talk about a great sound (crickets chirping) LOL

 

Another thing to consider, there are thousands of BMW X5 on the road, while the are only few hundreds FF (or even less) on the road.

 

Yes indeed. And you can add in the fact that F-cars tend to be driven less. But it is a company's fleet average economy that counts. Madness.

 

Lambo is right, Ferrari take a wrong direction of so called progress

 

Well, you can use the same argument for just about everything. Having a relatively small impact in the scope of things shouldn't really give you a free pass to do whatever you want.

Personally I think it's moronic to buy a high-performance luxury car or SUV. Even in their best form the performance is garbage. Capacity, comfort, and fuel economy should be the goal of such vehicles IMO.

 

V8 TT is coming to the next R8 most likely. Plan on it coming to Lamborghini not to long after as well.

 

if there will be still NA option, noone will buy turbo R8,

 

Well that varies. Soo many R8s are modified by adding a supercharger or Biturbo to get more horsepower that I think the turbo R8 might sell better as it's customer base is targeted to more young drivers, not saying it's only meant for young drivers.

There are more benefits with the r8 going turbo because Audis aren't known for their sound so they have nothing to lose but the sound of a ferrari is key. I hope they find a way to produce a engine that still revs high and produces a proper sound

 

high revs will not help, F1 have 15k rpm red line and still sound like a crap, problem is turbine on the exhaust pipe, engineers will not fix this problem because new turbines kill pure sound even more than old one (F40)

 

F1 cars only rev to 12k, even though the limit is 15. Still, crappy sound.

 

turbocharged engine can't sound good at high revs because at that moment turbine rotate extremely fast

 

I have to say my Gallardo twin turbo sounds insane! It makes my 458 sound quite. Granted its aftermarket with no cats or mufflers....Ferrari will make the new 458 with turbos sound awesome.

 

Please note: my 458 na spider at 7-9k rpm sounds better than an F1 car at 12k rpm.

Sad but true.

 

Visit the Lambo and R8 forums and you'll find that to be quite the contrary. Huge demand from R8 and Lamborghini owners for turbos.

 

Interesting. This is the torque-is-everything crowd speaking.

 

What do you mean huge demand? It's not even 1% of Lambo owners install a turbo in their car.

 

The Ferrari Files: Evolution With a Twist
We should also see in 2016 an improved F12, which does not really need a fresh make-up or more power but is set to get both. Its V-12 also remains turbo-free, and there is no hybrid version forecast. However, electrification is an integral part of the all-new Ferrari architectures due to come on-stream for front-engine cars in 2017 and mid-engine cars in 2019.

Maybe, just maybe..2020 458 successor's successor will be NA V8 plus electric, after all F12's successor will be NA V12 plus electric, mid-engine should be the same.

 

Huge load of b******s!
No LaFerrari Spider on the cards (the carbon tub is enclosed), nor a smaller V6 or manual.
Basically that article is a waste of time.

 

so 6,3 liter NA V12 is eco friendly when 4,5 liter NA V8 is poisoning environment creature? where is logic?

 

The only logic is that the V12s sell in very small numbers and thus make a small difference to the total corporate CO2 emissions. BTW, CO2 is a harmless gas when it comes to living creatures.

At any rate, the 4.5 litre V8 had reached its maximum (Ferrari's words) and had to be replaced either by a bigger N/A V8, or a downsized turbocharged engine. We all know what happened in the end...

 

Well said.