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Now this is my idea of a PPI! (pics)

Discussion in '348/355' started by Badabing!, Aug 2, 2014.

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  1. Targatime

    Targatime Formula 3

    Feb 22, 2014
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    Houston we have a problem on #6
     
  2. MARMIST

    MARMIST Formula 3

    Jul 1, 2014
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    Professionals !
     
  3. Badabing!

    Badabing! Formula Junior

    Mar 30, 2014
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    #4 Badabing!, Aug 2, 2014
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    Continued....


    the exposed wire runs to the fuel pump. looks like something has been gnawing on it.....

    various oil leaks

    torn axle boot

    steering rack bellows totally annihilated

    also in one of the pics of the oil leaks, you will notice white silicone. whoever did the major siliconed all the valve covers, cam seals, etc
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  4. Badabing!

    Badabing! Formula Junior

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    #5 Badabing!, Aug 2, 2014
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    so the seller has been touting this as a pristine, need nothing car, and has an asking price that is the highest I've seen and hasn't been willing to budge.

    so far it potentially needs cats and valve guides, as well as some of the other more minor issues shown.

    That steering rack looks scary as well.

    also has evidence of paint on the rear bumper and driver side rear quarter panel and a "questionable" recent major.

    hopefully this will convince him to price the car more realistically.
     
  5. kylec

    kylec F1 Rookie

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    Is it really called compressure?
     
  6. sherpa23

    sherpa23 F1 World Champ
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    Who did that PPI? I would absolutely use them.
     
  7. Dave rocks

    Dave rocks F1 World Champ
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    Torn CV boots are common. The rack however is an involved repair. Unless you plan to do a lot of work yourself Neil, this will be expensive to repair.
     
  8. drbob101

    drbob101 F1 Rookie
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    Reality check for the seller.

    Cv boots no big deal.

    Steering pia and money. Not a huge deal

    Fuel oump wiring. Eh

    Now.... What does the cc and ld mean???
     
  9. Badabing!

    Badabing! Formula Junior

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    #10 Badabing!, Aug 2, 2014
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2014

    Classic Coach in Elizabeth NJ.

    You have got to see their facility. These guys are the real deal.

    If you want fancy shop floors, a comfortable waiting room, and free bottled water go to the dealer.

    If you want to see all manner and vintage of F-cars in various states of disassembly, and people working on them who clearly know what they are doing, go to these guys.

    Another F-chatter had this car PPI'd at the dealer not more than a month and 200 miles ago. I have discussed this car with him at length.

    I don't believe the dealer caught any of these issues and performed what seems to be a dubious compression test with results in the low 100's (like 105 - 110).
     
  10. SoCal1

    SoCal1 F1 Veteran
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    What did they recommend to you about the engine numbers?
     
  11. drbob101

    drbob101 F1 Rookie
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    Classic coach is the best. They have treated me very well and a tour if that shop is eye opening.

    First class operation.
     
  12. Badabing!

    Badabing! Formula Junior

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    Don't get me wrong, it's not all doom and gloom.

    It does already have a Tubi muffler! (OEM headers though).

    But seriously, the car presents well cosmetically and is very clean. I also drove it and although it wasn't an extended drive nor did I push it, it seemed fine save for the previously mentioned CEL and Airbag light.

    The shop advised me that although it has some issues, its still worth pursuing provided the price is in line with its needs. Once sorted, it could be a great car.
     
  13. Badabing!

    Badabing! Formula Junior

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    They said that compression was on the lower end of the range but not alarming.

    Clearly cylinder 6 is an issue, and 2 and 8 are a bit elevated in terms of leakdown and that some head work (valve guides either way, and they don't replace with oem) would most likely be required.

    But, it's not an emergency and that the engine won't "blow up" because of it and I could drive the car for awhile, even possibly till its next major and address it then.
     
  14. k wright

    k wright F1 Rookie

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    If the steering rack is within tolerances why would it be hard to replace the boots? I would think that pulling the rod ends off the end of the tie rod would make this a quick job with the rack still in the car.

    Not trying to be a jerk, just wondering.
     
  15. Badabing!

    Badabing! Formula Junior

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    I think the consensus is that those boots appear to have been compromised for quite sometime and there is a considerable amount of grit that has damaged the oil seals requiring replacement or rebuild.
     
  16. Wade

    Wade Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #17 Wade, Aug 7, 2014
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  17. Evan.Fiorentino

    Evan.Fiorentino F1 Rookie

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    Walking into classic coach is like walking back in time to the 60's! You see cars there that most people only dream of seeing. And if you have a chance to go upstairs... forget it.. game over.
     
  18. drbob101

    drbob101 F1 Rookie
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    Yep...and if Onofrio is there you get to meet a true gentleman and a get a fresh cup of expresso to boot. Wonderful people at all levels.

    A class operation for sure.

    Its kind of funny but Classic Coach sits right next to the North Jersey Coast line railroad tracks in a pretty urban area of Elizabeth, NJ and anyone who takes the train to NYC from here passes it on every trip. Since getting my car so many people have said to me, do you know the Ferrari dealer you see from the rain in Elizabeth? I do now.
     
  19. bnels2348

    bnels2348 Karting

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    Now I think I'll buy a car in NJ just so I can have them do the PPI. Impressive.
     
  20. roadracer311

    roadracer311 Formula 3

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    #21 roadracer311, Aug 13, 2014
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    Wow, yeah. Should look a little more like this. (mine)

    I haven't mentioned it yet on FChat, but mine is currently on consignment. Not a Berlinetta though. Mine is a Spider (Red on black).
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  21. lotusk

    lotusk Formula 3

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    What's all that black mess over the orange brake ducting?
    Is that rust on the disc near the mounting hub?
     
  22. roadracer311

    roadracer311 Formula 3

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    The black one is the coating they spray under the fenders. The dealers are instructed to respray under the fenders after service if the coating gets nicked while they're working on it. You'll notice in the PPI photos, that the orange tube has been entirely covered in the black stuff.

    The rotor is made out of steel, so yes it does oxidize. If you've seen other 355 rotors, you'll recognize that this is a very good looking one.
     
  23. blue_myriddn

    blue_myriddn Karting

    Feb 8, 2012
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    *thumbs up*

    Great thread and great info from a PPI. I have been through Elizabeth and it is a pretty rough area, good to know there would be a reason to venture in for a top notch establishment like this.
     
  24. lotusk

    lotusk Formula 3

    Nov 3, 2003
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    Ugh
    That brake duct needs a clean up good and proper..lets the rest of it down
    I had my discs stove enameled black in all those areas where rust appears...very tasty
     

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