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2014 Monterey Auctions Thread

Discussion in '206/246' started by HMB-Dino, Jun 10, 2014.

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  1. tx246

    tx246 F1 Veteran
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    Ron,

    Did the sills missing look that way when you saw it? It seems like the 206 is a ok car, but a project. If that's the case, I don't think the number is that crazy bad.

    The GTO was so hyped, I think people let their imaginations run wild based on supposed private GTO sales. It is at a value tonight that still should be the most expensive car auctioned. A new record. Kinda funny when breaking a record leaves people disappointed.
     
  2. HMB-Dino

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    Don't know what you mean by `sills missing'. Almost all of the 10 cars auctioned tonight went at or below bottom of range.
     
  3. tx246

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    In one of the catalog photos, it looks like the lower rocker panel below the door is completely missing. Did you notice anything about the rockers or have pictures of those areas?
     
  4. HMB-Dino

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    Did not notice anything unusual, but then again I was not looking at that specific area. If the car is still on site tomorrow, I will check since I'm attending their auction tomorrow as well (free VIP admission is hard to turn away!).
     
  5. mar3kl

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    None of the dinos you photographed look all that sharp, so I wouldn't at all be surprised if they don't sell for big bucks, or if they don't sell at all. These rising prices are bringing all sorts of cars out of the woodwork, not all of them worth buying.
     
  6. HMB-Dino

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    I agree about the `out of the woodwork' observation. I was shocked when I looked over the 246's in detail. The Black one was pretty nice, but I really don't like Dino's with Flares...they look too much like kit cars for my taste.
     
  7. synchro

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    Apologies for briefly going off topic but it is not that people did not appreciate original colors, in fact The Dino Compendium details the quantity of Dinos painted Red is the highest of any original color, so perhaps the factory thinks the Dino looks good in them too.

    When I was looking for my first Dino in 1989 it was the case that Ferraris that were associated with their racing effort were the ones that appreciated in value. Ferrari's racing color is red and that spurred the popularity by buyers and dealers followed that with the humorous term "resale red". Personally I like Ferrari's Racing Red color on Dinos.

    The Dino has a distant relationship with racing due to the engine but still there is a connection and this is one of the things that the 308 crowd don't understand when they arrive here and talk about auction price divergence between the two models.



     
  8. synchro

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    I count 10 DINOS at the 2014 auctions in MONTEREY:


    GOODING:

    Estimate: $600,000 - $700,000
    Chassis: 00126
    1968 Ferrari Dino 206 GT | Gooding & Company
    1968 206, SN 00126, Yellow with Black interior
    SOLD AT US$520k + 10% = $572,000

    1974 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
    Estimate: $425,000 - $500,000
    Chassis: 07976
    Blue
    Just Three Owners from New
    Long-Term Single Family Ownership
    Highly Original and Unrestored Example
    Offered with Books and Tools
    http://www.goodingco.com/vehicle/1974-ferrari-246-dino-gts/


    BONHAMS:

    1969 FERRARI DINO 206 GT
    Chassis no. 00338
    Engine no. 00338
    Sold for US$ 572,000 inc. premium
    http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21917/lot/1/
    SOLD AT US$572,000 incl buyer's premium

    Lot 220
    1973 FERRARI DINO 246GTS
    Coachwork by Scaglietti - Design by Pininfarina
    Chassis no. 06464
    *Recent nut-and-bolt restoration
    *Exquisite condition in and out
    *Desirable Chairs and Flairs GTS specification
    *Black with Tabacco colored interior from new
    *Delivered new to the US through Modern Classic Motors
    US$ 500,000 - 600,000
    http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21917/lot/220/

    Lot 265
    1972 FERRARI DINO 246GT
    Coachwork by Scaglietti - Design by Pininfarina
    Chassis no. 03964
    US$ 290,000 - 330,000
    http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21917/lot/265/


    RM AUCTIONS:

    Lot 141
    1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS
    To be auctioned on Friday, August 15, 2014
    $400,000 - $500,000
    Chassis no. 06158
    1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Monterey 2014 | RM AUCTIONS


    RUSSO AND STEELE:

    1974 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS
    Monterey 2014
    Consignment # 9077
    VIN: 246 GTS 07890
    Run # S657 Approx. Run Time Saturday 8:51PM-9:11PM
    Russo and Steele


    MECUM:

    1973 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
    Color Red
    Interior Black
    VIN/SERIAL 07328
    1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Mecum Auctions

    1973 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
    Color Yellow
    Interior Beige/black
    VIN/SERIAL 05800
    ESTIMATE: $400,000 - $500,000
    Offered Between 2:00 - 3:00pm
    1973 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS | Mecum Auctions


    RICK COLE:

    1974 246GTS
    SN 8454
    Verde Medio Nijiynski with Tan interior, 8.7k miles
    Estimate $395k-$495k
    http://rickcole.com/1974-ferrari-246-gts/
     
  9. barchetta

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  10. 300GW/RO

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    pick your model, this applies throughout....price expectation is to realize what 'last years' Nice-very nice cars brought in terms of sales price. Sellers are asking "the market" to buy INFERIOR goods at SUPERIOR pricing.

    With that in mind.....as prices dip or level-out, causation more of a function of poor cars vs. "bubble-popping". As always, good-great cars will fetch more $$ !!

    I see this as healthy, realistic and hopefully washing the market.....
    btw, did you notice those hideous welds on ALL those Dinos ?

    Jack
     
  11. ttforcefed

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    can someone post a summary of the final hammers?
     
  12. Dino246gts

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    No summary, but RM lot 141 sold for $440,000 including commission.
     
  13. MRONY

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    Any idea what the blue '74 GTS sold for??
     
  14. MRONY

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    Just got it. LOT 10 at Gooding the blue 1974 GTS sold for $400,000 hammer, $440,000 total. Same price as RM lot 141.
     
  15. ttforcefed

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    were those chairs and flares cars?
     
  16. Dino246gts

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    141 not C&F. See Synchro's post above for links to cars' descriptions
     
  17. Pantdino

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    The unrestored 275GTS sold for just over $1M, against an estimate of $1.75 to 2M.

    This is beside the point, but to me a million dollar car should be something very special. Which the 275GTS is not.
     
  18. -CD-

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    Anyone who knows the price for the black 512 TR?

    Greetings Christian
     
  19. mosierjr

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    Rick Cole Dino 8454 - Currently bid at 396,000 without BP or CA tax. Reserve not met. Online bidding runs until midnight tonight. No bid yet on the 1955 410S at 19M, but it's 13 hours to go.
     
  20. ttforcefed

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    I think someone said 187 in another thread
     
  21. TonyJerseyUK

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    The Gooding 206 GT #00338 sold for $748k all up (circa £447k). A new record?
     
  22. possum

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    Thats $800,000 AUSTRALIAN.
     
  23. tx246

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    SOLD at $407k plus premium.

    If 10% premium is correct, that would be $447,700
     
  24. UroTrash

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    00126?
     
  25. ENZOSON

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    So I think we are missing these results:

    RUSSO AND STEELE:

    1974 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS
    Monterey 2014
    Consignment # 9077
    VIN: 246 GTS 07890
    Run # S657 Approx. Run Time Saturday 8:51PM-9:11PM


    MECUM:

    1973 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
    Color Red
    Interior Black
    VIN/SERIAL 07328

    1973 FERRARI DINO 246 GTS
    Color Yellow
    Interior Beige/black
    VIN/SERIAL 05800
    ESTIMATE: $400,000 - $500,000


    Pietro
     

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