Ferrari, Not for Everyone?

My words for it could be actionable.



There is no doubt that some customers and some dealers can be unreasonable but all of them?



And don't get me started on the 355 fuel hose fiasco. They tried in the end to blame independent shops for the fires when there was a previous TSB admitting the cars were built that way. The knew the problem. They admitted to it in writing and were too cheap to make a real fix until it just could not be ignored anymore.

I could go on.

 

So do you feel that the OP's experience is plausible? That these issues that he had COULD result from the engineering of the cars alone? (Loaded I know.. and unfair)

 

On the face of it I think a fair amount of blame goes elsewhere.

 

Wow. That's risky... hopefully you don't have that same insurance now and are using an agreed value policy through Grundy, Hagerty, etc. If your car is stolen, wrecked, etc.... you get 308 money.

 

Thank you. What I suspected.

 

Doesn't surprise me at all Brian. A leopard never changes it's spots.

 

its better to have loved and lost, than to never have loved at all.....

 

You got it!
I always reason that when I'm sitting on the porch in the rocking chair drinking lemonade and talking to the grandkids, do I want to be telling them stories of my "adventures" in the sweet-ass Toyota Camry I used to own, or do I want to talk about a run up the coast with the top down in the old F430 spider?

 

I think it's great to hear specifics of names and locations and so on. I do think that many gearboxes indicates pretty hard driving but the computer controls of the DCT should prevent really abusive things like powershifting that can break a traditional transaxle. In other words, even if I try to downshift when at redline it should not be possible and the DCT should handle WOT up shifts without any problem. I'd still want to explore what could be breaking gearboxes.

On the other hand he seems to not have similar problems with Lamborghini.

Finally, at 27 being able to afford full ticket for multiple new Ferraris also comes with some 'tude and arrogance, but hey if he can do it some arrogance is not exactly out of line.

And it will agree that on the sales side, I demand a little bit of obsequiousness from the sales staff. Nothing degrading, but don't tell me how fortunate I am to have a Ferrari and make me jump through hoops.

 

FWIW , the failures that I have seen ( DCT ) have been electronic in nature not mechanical.

I have not seen a phycical broken part unless it was from impact, which has nothing to do with build quality.

I wish the OP good luck with Lamborghini, I think they've worked through the connecting rod failure in the V10's... right?

S

 

So after reading all the posts, Ferrari is not for everyone.... only those who want to pick up girls.
Am I right?
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/458-italia/457004-pick-up-lineas-chicks.html (True F-chat gold here, thank me later)

 

Well men.. works best for picking up men actually.

 

A few failures in 2005, attributed largely to the incorrect grade of oil use. The V10 is far stronger than most F-car engines. The late lamborghini's are very, very good indeed....

 

For what it's worth, I had a 2007 Audi S4, 4.2 litre V8, engine replaced under warranty in 2001 for excessive oil consumption. I had to go through an oil consumption test where they weighed the oil before and after running 1,000 km, to confirm the oil consumption I reported from my log book since new (consumption increased significantly after 3 years, to 1 liter every 1200 km). Mind you, Audi treated me very well, from initial diagnostics to returned with new long block in 9 weeks, I got it back one week before the 4 year warranty expired!

 

"Found a better fit for your needs"?

Like a car that doesn't (hopefully) require multiple gearbox replacements? That's an odd comment, no?

 

So the reason you keep frequenting and posting in a Ferrari forum is ................

 

To keep himself informed if the trend changes and to keep himself informed of anything interesting that might be happening close to him.

Also might be to laugh about all the problems he sees. Who knows.

 

Yup, pretty much , although i take no pleasure in reading posts about cars that cause owners grief.

 

I want to hear about what he and people like him have to say. This is the first time I've heard about the 458 tranny problems.

 

It won't be the last! This is a sealed non-serviceable unit that I've been told runs about $92K to replace. It's supposed to be good for the "life of the car", maybe it is the lowest common denominator and the "tail is wagging the dog" in that statement....as the OP has reached the "life of his car" three times so far. This whole sealed transmission didn't work out so well when BMW tried it....notice they haven't tried it again to my knowledge.

 

why would they make it like this ? what advantages does it bring ?

 

FWIW, the entire gearbox might cost 1/3 of that.

The Customer Pay repair is in the $15k +/- range

S

 

Instagram <- wasnt aware this was how i was "supposed to drive my ferrari"

Enjoy your Lambo..