599 Clutch Install Procedures

The nuts and bolts are the easy part. If you don't have an SD3 to set it up, you can't do it.

 

All 3.

 

No powder puffing here...it's not a DIY job no mater how many clutch jobs you think qualify you to be able to do so....

 

Checkout the 550/575 thread and look up the last guy whom changed his own timing belts. He was a very capable mechanic as well. Modern technology has made things that were simple, difficult and very costly mistakes

 

I think you can easily do it, donzella. Problem is that you cannot really expect the dealers here in FChat to tell you how to make them lose money, nor the mechanics here will do it. For the same reason.

But you are right, you can easily do it if someone teaches you. It's not a DCT, it's a F1.

Your problem will be that nobody here wants more competition.

Basically this section is for people ASKING things to the already present mechanics.

 

Listen a hole. We tell a lot of people how to do a lot of things.


With 159 posts and a join date of a month ago you have no idea what we have or haven't done.

I have loaned tools, spent hours on the phone and given away parts to people here to help them with their cars. Some have done a great deal more.

The point is without an SD3 he cant.

I have no idea what you do know but maybe you should stick to that.

 

Perhaps you could give him a few pointers? I'm interested in just how he's going to set up the clutch, electronically speaking.

Well, that's a good point. Four working pros with nearly 100 years of cumlative Ferrari experience have responded here and told him that in order to do this job (so that it actually works when he's done), he needs an SD-3. No one said that he couldn't do it, just that the SD-3 (a Ferrari-specific diagnostic computer) is required to do the job correctly. Considering that piece equipment alone is in the $20-$30K, I doubt the gracious pros that are offering their advice for free are just going to drop it in the mail to the original poster.

Then again, perhaps you have one that you're willing to lend. And of course, share all your years of experience with these cars, gratis...I doubt it.

 

Great response!!!

 

I couldn't have said it better.

 

and u cant loan him an SD3 ?

 

That is a joke, right?

 

Why not? You meanies!

Along with a couple of days of training on how to use the sucker. (Free, naturally).

Goodness gracious.

Cheers,
Ian

 

FWIW, my comments weren't aimed at you at all. You asked, and were given the answers. Not what you wanted to hear, but it is what it is. You seemed to understand and accepted with good grace.

It was the newbie who basically called some of the most helpful & respected professionals here liars that I was aiming at.

The responses were remarkably mellow! Once upon a time this thread would be a total train wreck by now!

Cheers,
Ian

 

Only because the ******* (that used to say p u s s i e s) around here don't like it.

I bet they have Tommy got a gold star for showing up to class bumper stickers on their mommy wagons.

 

OP - See what I mean!?.....

 

Don't give up hope so fast.

I do not own a 599, nor have I ever worked on one. Having said that I have done a ton of work on my 348, and what I have learned is, when there is a will there is a way.

Have you tried getting in contact with a company called Texa and talking with them about their Navigator TXC, and I think the version you need is the Super Car program. NAVIGATOR TXC - Multi-environment diagnostics - TEXA S.p.A.

Again I have never worked on a 599 F1, nor used the Texa system, but from what I have read you need the computer to get the clutch measurements before you replace it. You'll need the computer to set the point of initial slip after replacement and other F1 parameters, including I think bleeding the clutch?

Do your research because I found that info last night searching the web, just out of curiosity.

Let us know what you end up doing.

 

If you want to save yourself lots of money there is one thing that you can do.
Take the car in pay for a scan have your clutch value's read.Take it home replace the clutch assembly yourself and save about 6k in labour.then when done take the car back and have it set up with the scanner.I dont see why that wouldnt work if you can do the labour yourself.

 

We have a texa in our cupboard. It was bought and subsequently remains unused since I started there with an SD3 and a Leonardo. On its last outing it reported clutch wear at 100% on a granturismo that actually had 78% remaining. There is also no facility to alter clutch thickness when you install a new one. It is an expensive dust collector...

 

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's a recipe for disaster.....

Brian has already noted that you need the SD3 before, *during* and after the installation.

My advice is to heed what he says - He knows of what he speaks.

Cheers,
Ian