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308 GTB Vetroresina

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  1. greyboxer

    greyboxer F1 World Champ

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    #1001 greyboxer, Aug 22, 2014
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    So its not you on another forum effectively inviting a bid ?

    "What value would you put on a RHD 308 GTB Vetroresina great condition and lots of history, red?"

    hi Simon , i have recently bought 2 and am looking for a third

    "Just sent you a PM"
     
  2. EMILIO

    EMILIO F1 Veteran

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    AND again the GTB glass and steel are not the same since we have dry sump and wet sump cars...

    i think there are really not much cars around for sale...when i got my 79 GTB (euro) there were a few steel and glass GTB dry sump around, and from then always fewer cars for sale.

    i believe people are holding now also on the steel cars....in the end it is a beautiful car with an iconic design, pretty rare, fun to drive, reliable AND with a peculiar engine that was inteneded to be used in racing. All of this for a good price, or at least they were pretty cheap few months ago.
     
  3. MikeRSR

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    An easy mistake to make given that your only contribution to the forum so far Simon is to talk up prices and try to invite bids on a Lambo...with wing.

    I don't think you understand forums Simon, they exist for like minded enthusiasts to help each other, to discuss, educate, inform and share their passions.
    People normally introduce themselves when they join and always helps to fill in your profile, otherwise people might think you have a hidden agenda....
     
  4. Albert-LP

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    the markek is always fun and unpredictable. Who could imagine that a Dino could cost 400 K? 4400 is the grand total of Dino production, more or less, so isn't rare.

    The carbed 308 aren't rare, nor are the 328, but prices are going very high.

    I think the carbed cars (who cares of dry or wet sump, here in Europe every GTB carbed was dry sump and every carbed GTS was wet sump) are a good investment, like the 328 (and the QV too, a great car). Even the 2 valve "i" are a good investment today, as prices are affordable. I think every 3x8 car (including Italian market 208) is a very good investment.
    And even if it will be a bad investment (who knows what will happen in the future), it's a great looking vintage Ferrari with low mantaining cost that you can still buy for a reasonable price. Here in Italy there isn't any glass 308 for sale on the online car selling networks: i think prices are already out of my range.


    ciao
     
  5. st@ven

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    Indeed. The special engine was the sole reason for me wanting one. As a matter of fact. I do prefer a steel dry sump over a glass wetsump. The glass one will be more expensive sure But personally, As a tech guy the special engine does It for me more than the current" value" of the bodypanels material.

    And when It comes to rarity. The steel dry sump nummers are in the end not far of the glass one's
     
  6. MikeRSR

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    Hi Emilio, here in the UK, suddenly Vetros all over the place for sale!
    When I was trying to find mine not one openly advertised, now 5 of them currently on Pistonheads:

    Used 1976 Ferrari 308 for sale in Essex | Pistonheads

    Used 1978 Ferrari 308 for sale in Kent | Pistonheads

    Used 1976 Ferrari 308 for sale in Worcestershire | Pistonheads

    Used 1976 Ferrari 308 for sale in Worcestershire | Pistonheads

    Used 1976 Ferrari 308 for sale in Derbyshire | Pistonheads

    Now I wonder what that says about the state of the market.....
     
  7. Aircon

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    I think it means people who were ho hum about owning them but were too lazy to sell are now motivated.
     
  8. stradman

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    Or that people are calling a peak and therefore wanting to get out now while they can????
     
  9. dinos

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    The 1990s are back... clear and simple ( At least for the people that were buying or selling this type of cars in the 1990s )
     
  10. greg 19425

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    I just don't agree that it is just $$$$$. These cars offer so much more in the way of driving experience (no driver aids) and that combined with the relatively low maintenance expense (compared to newer F-car's) more than justifies the current values. :)
     
  11. st@ven

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    To me It seems only in the uk now. Probably with a push from down under. Prices like discussed here are really not happening on the mainland.(yet?)
     
  12. SimonMorris

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    Sorry, didn't realise in asking an expert on another forum for the value of my car that I was committing some form of crime- don't you have better things to do with your time?
     
  13. SimonMorris

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    I am not trying to talk prices up- they are observations based on facts.

    I am also trying to establish the value of some of my cars by asking forum experts- is that not allowed?

    I understand how forums work- you don't need to be condescending

    I don't fill my profile up because I am quite a private person

    I have followed this thread for some time and never posted because I see on most forums the sort of mentality that you have displayed so don't worry, I won't ever post here again
     
  14. st@ven

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    quoted the very first and the last one in this thread.

    Simon may be somehow strange in apparent talking up pricing but this thread is filled with that.
    The vetroresina thread talks money constantly, i do not see any harm in Simons additions.

    What do not understand is the " exclusivity" here as of the vetro are something really special. Because they are not. Oke they build only 800, so only slightly less then the steel drysumps ( my best guess) but more tha a 308 gtbi. The only reason for the production change was production speed and demand. The vetro is not a special sport edition, not a special lightweight version made among the normal ones. Its a beautiful car but the early steel ones are exactly the same cars. only made in steel.

    By making a special thread on the vetro's the 308/328 section started a culture of looking at prices. Constantly.
    We never did that over here, we were always considdered the entry ferraris but now suddenly everybody is talking money, and money only. An that's a pity. We used to have our cars for fun, a few years ago more than half over here were not even aware of the excistence of this "very specal edition called vetro"

    I own my 4 3x8s because I considder them among the most beautiful designs ever, because with 4 I can spread my mileage ( every year more than 10K) I own them because i love to drive this agile, shortbreated, not to fast but wonderfull cars. I do not care about the value at all. The value is in drving, not in compairng their value to the lastest auction.
     
  15. roma1280

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    4 308s? Pics please
     
  16. MikeRSR

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    Seems I touched a raw nerve there, certainly didn't mean to offend!
     
  17. greg 19425

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    No problem. We each go through life in our own way, some fast, some slow and others who knows. :)
     
  18. stradman

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    Well to be honest, that's how forums are. There is usually a pack mentality and yes people can gang up and some will get offended very easily and shy away. But that's how it is. If you can't stand the heat in the kitchen then you got to get out!
    Things are often said particularly as we're all anonymous and thus they can be taken the wrong way by people. Nothing new in that. You sometimes have to grow a thick skin to not let that sort of thing bother you if you want to participate in forums. They are not for the meek!
     
  19. st@ven

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  20. EMILIO

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    ok, in the end they are ALL nice, cool cars and we all agree on it

    but the who cares? kind of thing could be said for example for glass VS steel: who cares about glass fiber body? 30 Kgs less are important? we know many of these things are marginal.
    probably the differences btw an euro GTB and US GTB are more than one from a stell to vetro car...

    in the end these are classic so these features are important to some...otherwise we will all look for a generic 208-308-328...while some looks for a 328 GTB, some for a turbo GTS etc...
     
  21. 4right

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    Like it or not, agree with it or not, believe that a glass car is a special car or not, the values are going up. Consequently, you are obviously in the minority when it come time to buy or sell, otherwise the prices wouldn't be selling at a premium.
     
  22. wrxmike

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    The price of all carburettor Ferrari's has risen in the past couple of years, and with 246 Dino prices now 250K pounds plus (and similar in the US) the prices of early 308 GTB's at the 110k pounds are still absolute bargains by comparison. So buyers priced out of the 246 market are turning to the next thing in line, which happens to be the 'glass GTB, which is arguably a better car than a 246 anyway.
    And the fact that the308 has 'glass body and some other subtle visual differnces, as well as the dry sump engine, seem to be enough to set it apart from the later 308xx cars.
    For me the allure of an early GTB is that it represents the purest rendition of the original concept and the shape, even 40 years on, is perfection.


    M
     
  23. carl888

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    That's probably a good thing. Your attitude seems very precious, blaming others for not posting yet at the same time refusing to contribute anything of value (BTW, check what Mike has contributed since he bought his car). And....refusing to fill in your profile, OK, it's not compulsory, but it does help break the ice and finally expecting free information? Good riddance! It's takers like you that destroy the free exchange of information on forums such as these. There, I said it.
     
  24. sp1der

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    #1024 sp1der, Aug 24, 2014
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    Here we go 166 + letters AB D, this is on the LH outer chassis tube under the inner sills, you would not be able to notice this unless replacing the sills. I only caught it at a certain angle but the camera has picked it up ok.
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  25. SimonMorris

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    You know nothing about me and yet you feel comfortable in posting something like that based on a handful of forum posts I have made, which you have misconstrued my intentions about

    Then again, looking at your profile where you state under 'other toys' 'a few girlfriends'. I could jump to my own conclusions...

    Well done little man- a true keyboard warrior

    There, I said it as well
     

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