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  1. rockminster

    rockminster Formula Junior
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    All the data I have shows that Cotswold blue was a standard Etype factory color from 61 thru 65. It may have bled into the 65 model year but that is less certain. It was always an optional color after it left the standard color list. Fwiw, it was standardly mated to a dark blue interior.
     
  2. lopena

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    And let's not forget about the '66 OTS that sold at the RM auction in NYC last October for a whopping $467,500. That car was very nicely restored but not extraordinary.

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  3. ghibliman

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    Worth every penny.....what a beautiful car!
     
  4. f308jack

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    Well, if that is the sort of money that people are willing to pay for an SI ots, what kind of money buys a quality-comparable SII OTS today?

    Best,

    Jack.
     
  5. 95spiderman

    95spiderman F1 World Champ
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    Most s2 cars dont get that type restoration so hard to compare. My yellow s2 in the foto above was $35k 2 yrs ago. It had some.rust driver floor and trunk. Cost me few grand to repair. Gorgeous driver for about 10% of a s1. Wonder what mine would have been worth now if didnt flood. Maybe $65? Idk
     
  6. Graz

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    I'm a novice when it comes to E type Jaguars other than the fact I have always loved them from afar. I'm interested in acquiring one. To the experts here, what years should I avoid? Are the newer (71-74) cars ones to stay away from for any particular reason. I think they're all beautiful. To sum up are there any years, engine type you would avoid completely?
     
  7. freestone

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    The collectability is all in the series 1.

    The 1961's with welded louvres and external hood latches are the most valuable. But as drivers quite deficient as they have flat floors.

    I think the 3.8 liters are the best engines and look the best with the aluminum dash trim. The seats look better too than the later ones but aren't as comfortable.

    The 1965-67 4.2 liters are better for driveablity as they have a synchro in first gear. You don't want the later 1967's that have open headlights. Stay closed.

    I have both a 62 and a 67, and the 62 is my preference. But I know how to clutch, so the first gear isn't an issue at all. I like the moss crashbox. And I am crazy about the interior in comparison.

    My 67 has 30,000 miles on it and is just being finished in its restoration. Most restorations aren't that good, and the donor car matters a lot. Mine for example started with absolutely no (read zero) rust. And the restoration shop takes great care in making sure that it is absolutely as if it would have come off the line, but slightly better. You want to see the welds, for example. You want to keep the little waves. You do want to make sure the panel fit is superb. And the paint should look like one stage original paint, not super finished. This level of restoration hasn't normally been done to jaguars as it is more difficult and frankly the cars weren't that valuable back then.

    For comparison, my 62 is a coupe, with 20,000 original miles. It was used to demonstrate to the pebble judges what an original car should be. Everything is original. It has had the same mechanic for 35 years!

    But, I will be selling the 67 convertible to make room for a different car I bought.
     
  8. freestone

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    It was a 1961 welded louvre external hood latch, very very early car.

    That puts it in a different category, much like twin grill 356 roadsters are compared to normal roadsters.

    I saw it and it was very well presented.
     
  9. ghibliman

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    Freestone.......which restoration shop did you use? I see your here on the "west coast".
     
  10. freestone

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    Steve Gordon.
     
  11. Edward 96GTS

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    ^ pix of the 62/67 cars?
     
  12. WILLIAM H

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    Think I'm buying a garage find 69 convertible

    Needs work but she'll b my hot Rod E

    Will keep 1st one mostly stock
     
  13. rockminster

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    Does anyone think that the first S3 cars from 1971, the first v12s, will be particularly desirable?
     
  14. WILLIAM H

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  15. rockminster

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    That's a sweet race car. They must be out there.

    It reminds me that the xj220 is, IMO, undervalued relative to other soon to be classic super cars.
     
  16. Edward 96GTS

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    for s3, must be conv, small bumpers, stick, wires, early 71 with 314 hp motor.
    try for a euro model, i think they had 4 su carbs in place of the strombergs.
     
  17. candellara

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    Great weekend at an air / car show here in the UK

    My E-Type on a high speed run:

    Video here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dExI2_SBZz0

    First run was just over 5k rpm and 2nd run 6k rpm. Rev limiter is set at 7000rpm so she still had some more to give.

    Front end didn't feel that light which was good. Speedo was wavering at between 150 and 160 on the 2nd run but i'd guess if recorded GPS it'd be around 140. I was very happy with the engine though as it pulled very hard from low down the rev range and very quickly built revs

    Next year, i'll go for VMAX 7000rpm and remember to take my GPS speedo
     
  18. f308jack

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    The Euro E V-12 also had the ZS carbs.
    One can, with some difficulty, fit SU's, which gives performance a bump.

    Best,

    Jack.
     
  19. staatsof

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    Then all it will need is a bigger wing! :eek: ;)
     
  20. WILLIAM H

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    And a 60s hippie paint job w SHAGUAR written on side :)
     
  21. rockminster

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  22. staatsof

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    Think they regret doing that now?
    Or maybe it's just a wrap?
     
  23. msdesignltd

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    I believe this was the MOMA car
    Probably half that price was due to its extended run in museum
     
  24. lopena

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    Nope, the RM Auction E-type was not the MOMA E-type. I looked at the E-type pamphlet I got from MOMA all those years ago and it clearly shows and lists a "1963 3.8 liter E-type".

    Alan
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  25. Bas

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    '64 E type couple series I 3.8 went for only £97500

    I'm don't know much about E values but that's quite cheap right?
     

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