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  1. anunakki

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    Awesome home run !
     
  2. leead1

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    My dealer in Orlando told me the first car will show up at the dealer show room in October. The first # of cars will be special colors and be more expensive. Later cars about $50k.

    He told me the drives like a Lotus Elise, and I had yhe sport. The car has more hp than the Elise.

    My only fear is I will not be able to get into the car. The Lotus wa only doable for me with the top off. He mentioned Alfa would be introducing additional models. I think I am excited

    It has wonderful looks.

    Best

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  3. texasmr2

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    Lee,
    My local dealer replied to my email today even though I had mistakenly asked about the 2015 model and not the 2016 model. The rep understood my error and at my request will contact me when they receive 2016 stock. I just want to drive the car and compare it to my '99 NB but I have no desire to replace my DD BMW 5 series for another DD 2-seater.

    Man I want another Miata bad and I actually rank it a few points above all my MR2's regarding handling. I have always wanted a car project I can share with my father and since he was a Ford mechanic for 20+yr's I am thinking about a V8 swap (something I would have never considered). My Dad can coach me from his chair (bad knee's) but he is a wealth of information.

    Sorry for going OT.
     
  4. DriveAfterDark

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  5. texasmr2

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    I need a drool bucket!!
     
  6. SCM

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    The pictures of the long awaited new (2016) Mazda MX-5 have just come out. Do I see parts of the Ferrari California T there, as well as some styling cues from the Jaguar XKF?
    I know I'm going to get in trouble here (but I do own a 1989 California Azzurro 328 GTS, which I love), but IMHO, I think the new "Miata" is better-looking, cleaner styled, then either of those two cars, and at about $35,000. Why did it take Mazda to make a clean roadster that doesn't look like someone kicked it in the rear? Let's hear your thoughts.
     
  7. DesertDawg

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    Well, Italy IS shaped like a boot, and therefore made for kicking things in the ass.
     
  8. David Lind

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    I am not wild about the new Miata. While it's fairly attractive, it is - to me - far too derivative. It looks like the illegitimate baby of a BMW Z4 and a Honda S2000. No trace at all of the 1.2 scale Lotus Elan that it has been all these years. I much prefer the green car depicted above, but I'm at least excited about the specs.
     
  9. David Lind

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    New Miata looks like a BMW Z4 mated with a Honda S2000.
     
  10. Devilsolsi

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    I really hope this isn't accurate. I don't think anyone would consider buying a $50K Miata.
     
  11. GuyIncognito

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    when the first gen Miata came out in 1989, people (particularly in CA) were paying $40k then to buy the first ones. they were ~$20k MSRP at the time.

    so yes, I have no doubt that some people will spend $50k on the first ones now.
     
  12. texasmr2

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    Lee,
    I think the dealer, sales rep, you spoke with is smoking something because there is no way the Miata will sell for $50K. Maybe the first ones as Guy suggested, yet after the dust settles the car will sell for between $28K (base) and $33K (fully optioned.) I am basing my opinion upon all the car mag's and their opinions and they are normally a reliable source.

    For $50K I would buy a 4C.
     
  13. GordonC

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  14. David_S

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    The first few went for crazy prices, but the original MSRP was just shy of $14k.

    I still think of the Miata as a $20 something thousand car. Would have a hard time stomaching $50k+.
     
  15. GuyIncognito

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    OK the $20k # was a blind guess (I was thinking it was under that but couldn't remember).

    but point stands, people will pay crazy amounts for the first of any new enthusiast car.
     
  16. Nurburgringer

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    One of the best looking 2 seat roadsters ever, from the pics at least.

    Even more impressive considering pedestrian safety regs (hood higher than ideally would be) and ~2200lb curb weight.

    You have to go back to the Z3 to find a vert with such low door sills. Hanging an elbow on the door is one of the great things about driving a ragtop IMO, try that in almost any recent one and you're risking a rotator cuff injury.

    Mazda's already done the "modern Elan" look twice and semi-swoopy once so good on them for going in a new direction.

    Sure you can point to other cars' designs and call this derivative, but I bet it'll be completely recognizable on the road as a Miata, if only because it's so small.

    Where are you seeing 4C in the design BTW? Tailights?

    With a baby on the way in 3 weeks and already one tiny 2-seater in the garage ('86 CRX Si) I won't be buying one anytime soon but, if my son turns into a gearhead like his old man I can see picking one up cheap in 16 years as his first car/my weekend toy :)
     
  17. Nurburgringer

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    So what you're saying is that it should be more derivative of the Elan? :)
     
  18. boxerman

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    I think it looks great, a little heavy in the rear and a bit z4 there but excusable.
    If it drives like one of the earlier ones it shoudl be great, they are the nicest steering car out there, and I drive an elise.

    The maiata motor was always a bit thrashy, but maybe the new one is not. Super or turbocharge one and its hard to beat. I know I had trouble keeping up with a 250hp turbo maiata at watkins glenn.

    There is a reason why a maita is the most produced sportscar of all time. The older designs were getting a bit stale and the car a bit heavy. Loosiing 200lbs a fresh face probably better power, whats not to like. I just dont see why one would spend more on a car than this, when it is so spectacular.

    Look at the alfa 4c which despite its cf tub weighs more. The benefits of the Cf tub namely stiffness are negated by a strut suspension. There is a crappy mtor paddle only.

    If the Miata drives like Maiatas of old(as opposed tot he last version) its a home run, sign me up. Hopefully they have not f-ed up the dynamics, eps is a concern.
     
  19. TheBigEasy

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    Fun little car for a hairdresser. ;)

    Little Ferrari? No.

    Only cheap/small car I'd consider a "little Ferrari" is the new Alfa Romeo 4C.
     
  20. boxerman

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    Form over substance for you then.
     
  21. treventotto

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    I read Fiat is going to produce its version of this car, THAT will be the little Ferrari.
     
  22. Schatten

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    I want one. Looks fantastic!
     
  23. Nurburgringer

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    A friend of mine who runs a guest house near the 'Ring just finished turbo-ing an older Miata. He's done well over 10k laps of the NS on a bike (sub 7:30 laps) and probably >1000 in cars.

    I'm both sad and happy he wasn't able to give me a passenger lap when I was there last month. Would have probably left a stain on the seat...
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  24. texasmr2

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    The Miata and Duran Duran, two '80s classics...
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  25. F1tommy

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    It looks like Honda S2000 mated to a Subaru BRZ.


    As the Honda S2000 was the most generic looking spider ever made I guess a copy and re use by another company should have been expected !!


    $50,000.00?? Does anybody know who came up with that? Did Mazda leak that price?
     

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